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Randy knows re Cedric Tillman

Posted on 8/4/23 at 5:55 pm
Posted by Serraneaux
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Posted on 8/4/23 at 5:55 pm


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Randy Moss just told Sirius FM that Cedric Tillman is the "best young receiver to enter the National Football League in the past 15 years".

"It's not even close. Every owner in the NFL should be pissed at whoever overlooked this guy multiple times."

Randy Moss
SiriusFM

Helluva a system Heupel runs considering he only played like 15 games in it

:)

#WRUizback
Posted by JayAg
Member since Jun 2021
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Posted on 8/4/23 at 5:58 pm to
I gotta guy who can print that quote on cups, lmk
Posted by LSUdude247
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 8/4/23 at 6:01 pm to
Surely this doesn't fire back like 95% of your other threads
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 8/4/23 at 6:02 pm to
So we're left to wonder if Josh Heupel is actually a great coach or if he had the good luck of stumbling into some uber talent, i.e. The Ed Orgeron Method.

If you recall, 2022 was the first time in Big Josh's coaching career that he didn't regress from the year prior.
Posted by Serraneaux
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Posted on 8/4/23 at 6:02 pm to
Send me his info
Posted by Serraneaux
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Posted on 8/4/23 at 6:03 pm to
Tillman had 2 catches previous to Heupel’s arrival and was a 2 star

:)
Posted by koreandawg
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Posted on 8/4/23 at 6:04 pm to
I'm more persuaded by the track record of WRs coming out of offenses you can't run fully in the NFL due to differences in the game.

I'm more persuaded by the track record of guys who did not dominate early in their college careers failing in the NFL.

I'm more persuaded by older guys who only dominate their junior or senior season not doing that well in the NFL.

Posted by Serraneaux
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Posted on 8/4/23 at 6:04 pm to
But that 6-4 Covid record at a directional school

Muh!

Posted by Serraneaux
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Posted on 8/4/23 at 6:05 pm to
Spanx bro
Posted by NukemVol
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 8/4/23 at 6:07 pm to
Tillman was under drafted. He will be a good NFL player, size, athleticism, ball skills. Best Vol WR I've watched (post-2005).
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 8/4/23 at 6:10 pm to
You're a fan who wants to see your player do well. I get it.

But....

WRs who go to top ten recruiting schools have a great track record.

WRs who have huge seasons as a freshman or sophomore have a great track record.

WRs who are drafted in the first and second round are far more likely to produce than WRs in the third round or later.

WRs who enter the draft at an early age are far more likely to produce than those who don't.

Again, WRs who are in offenses whose playbook, route tree, and scheme are more likely to be run in the NFL do better than WRs who are not in those types of offenses.

A lot to overcome here.

Hyatt would not be a great bet, but a better bet.
This post was edited on 8/4/23 at 6:11 pm
Posted by Mulkey Man
Member since Apr 2021
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Posted on 8/4/23 at 6:11 pm to
quote:

best young receiver to enter the National Football League in the past 15 years


Want to bet he produces less than Chase and Jefferson?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
56661 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 6:12 pm to
quote:

Tillman had 2 catches previous to Heupel’s arrival and was a 2 star

:)






Posted by LSUBALLER
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 8/4/23 at 6:34 pm to
Cup time
Posted by Serraneaux
South of 30a
Member since Mar 2014
20551 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 7:05 pm to
Now do Rivals ranking

:)
Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 8/4/23 at 7:10 pm to
quote:

Serraneaux


Posted by lsufball19
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 8/4/23 at 7:12 pm to
quote:

Now do Rivals ranking

I got you fam

LINK
Posted by Nashville Native
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 8/7/23 at 4:26 am to
"Had the luck of stumbling into Uber talent"...... I gotta know where this Uber talent you speak of came from. Because after Pruitt left Tennessee lost 35 players to the portal including....
-2 best LBs including the leading tackler and leader of defense
-sack leader and best pass rusher
-top 2 RBs
-starting QB and backup
-RT who was a 5 star and the guy who started over him
-only playmaking DB on the team
-4 out of top 6 DTs
Doesn't sound like any of the talent Pruitt brought in stuck around does it. Only exception is Darnell Wright and Hyatt (who averaged 200 yards a season).
Fast forward to last season, Tennessee's best players were:
-A former backup ACC QB (Hooker)
-a former walk on (Tillman)
-an LT that lost his starting spot a dozen times under Pruitt
-a 200 yard a season WR (Hyatt)
-a guy who worked at dollar general a year before coming to UT (Young).
All of those guys were drafted in the first 3 rounds of the 2023 NFL draft.
If Heupel and his staff could win 11 games in year 2 with these guys, what do you think he'll do with a legit roster. Be honest
This post was edited on 8/7/23 at 4:27 am
Posted by Loganville Vols
Loganville Georgia
Member since Feb 2021
1015 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 4:48 am to
Too many people buying into the recruiting BS about route running and route trees. That is something that they are using in recruiting against Tennessee. Which is a bunch of BS. But time will tell. It comes down to talent and desire. Because how many players were drafted in the NFL because I went through the combines and had great test results??
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26000 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 7:46 am to
quote:

Too many people buying into the recruiting BS about route running and route trees. That is something that they are using in recruiting against Tennessee. Which is a bunch of BS


Is it?
You have half field reads?
I've seen WRs stand still at the snap.
I've seen several plays diagrammed and I don't see a full route tree at every position.
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