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re: So if Alabama 'murderball' is the best way to win, why did they get away from it?
Posted on 8/3/23 at 11:48 am to koreandawg
Posted on 8/3/23 at 11:48 am to koreandawg
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Gibbs sucked at running between the tackles, but was good at receiving. I don't really recall anyone else in your backfield being someone to be feared as a power runner. Maybe he didn't have what he needed.
Well, he didn't even try. Nor did he manipulate defenses with motion, movement or mis-direction to improve the odds of finding gaps and stealing yards. And he had a couple of backs who absolutely had the ability (and showed it on occasion) to be adequate power guys (Jase for one). But his issue wasn't run the ball or not, it was how he ran the ball, how basic everything else was and just the general setup of the offense.
He is what he is - he runs an offense that is based around guys making reads of routes pre-play and mid-play and the QB making the same read. It's a style of offense that can still work in the NFL with the right personnel (though isn't adaptive, even there, which is why very few teams run it anymore), which is why the Patriots continuously opted for veterans and almost never had young receivers (and of course had Tom Brady). Smart, experienced WRs and one of the smartest QBs of all time were able to mind-sync, see gaps in coverage pre and mid play, both read it in real time and throw/cut to that spot at the same time. When you have that sort of setup, it's a very difficult (nearly impossible) system to stop.
It is a terrible fit for a college offense that cycles through young players every year and has very few players that retain institutional knowledge of the offense and experiences year over year. He didn't adapt at all, and Saban fricked up by bringing him in. It is what it is.
This post was edited on 8/3/23 at 11:51 am
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Posted on 8/3/23 at 12:09 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Maybe that's just it. He wasn't a college fit, although he seemed to do well enough to get an NFL head coaching job from it at Penn State.
And in the NFL, his offenses were good if he had a capable QB.
I realize you all are at a different standard of expectation than everybody else, but it's not like those coordinators were as bad as Coley.
If this were any other team in college football, no one would be picking them to make the playoff or win the title.
- Lose a Heisman winner, maybe the best QB you've had after having a second round pick, first round pick and first round pick start consecutively before him. Replace with ? We still don't know and it's not because they were all so good previously and in camp it's hard to choose.
- Replace both coordinators with new hires when, at least from a statistical standpoint, both were well above average.
- the talk about the disadvantage you had having the top offensive player and defensive player taken in the draft playing for you last year.
He's the GOAT. He may have this all figured out. Won't be shocked if you win it all again this year.
But I'd say on the doubting himself meter, Saban's higher than he's been since you lost to that non power 5 team in his first year. Not to say that it's extreme doubt, but I do think he's less sure of what the right move is relatively speaking.
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And in the NFL, his offenses were good if he had a capable QB.
I realize you all are at a different standard of expectation than everybody else, but it's not like those coordinators were as bad as Coley.
If this were any other team in college football, no one would be picking them to make the playoff or win the title.
- Lose a Heisman winner, maybe the best QB you've had after having a second round pick, first round pick and first round pick start consecutively before him. Replace with ? We still don't know and it's not because they were all so good previously and in camp it's hard to choose.
- Replace both coordinators with new hires when, at least from a statistical standpoint, both were well above average.
- the talk about the disadvantage you had having the top offensive player and defensive player taken in the draft playing for you last year.
He's the GOAT. He may have this all figured out. Won't be shocked if you win it all again this year.
But I'd say on the doubting himself meter, Saban's higher than he's been since you lost to that non power 5 team in his first year. Not to say that it's extreme doubt, but I do think he's less sure of what the right move is relatively speaking.
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