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re: So if Alabama 'murderball' is the best way to win, why did they get away from it?
Posted on 8/3/23 at 11:21 am to Pastor Mike
Posted on 8/3/23 at 11:21 am to Pastor Mike
I think this gives a pretty good idea of the general difference in the last 2 years, the previous 5-6 and then the early Saban era.......with Rees' tenure as Notre Dame dropped in.
It's not a perfect comparison because a lot of these seasons had coaches tailoring things to their QBs/personnel (DaBoll in 2017 with Jalen as an example), but it's a pretty good general visual.
We will not be returning to the 2009-2012 offense. We also won't be doing what BoB did the last 2 years. The goal is to look more like what we were when Saban brought Kiffin in to mesh pro-style concepts with RPO stuff, which we did (in different varieties) from 2014-2020. Then BoB came in and basically ignored 2/3 of that "Alabama Playbook" Saban likes to talk about and just ran Patriots 2009 stuff, but without 5-10 year veterans at WR (Galloway, Moss, Welker) to read and adjust routes on the fly.
Rees ran a lot of RPO/Read Option at Notre Dame, but he also ran a lot of pre-called run plays where the OL are not just pass blocking regardless of the run/pass read. Powers with pulling guards, sweeps, stretch plays.....and then a lot of misdirection off of it (with WR/TE motions attached). We'll be motioning guys all over the place, misdirection, all that stuff that Sark and Lane had at the heart of their system. Rees does as well. BoB did none of it. That'll be the biggest difference, IMHO.
As for the "murderball" thing, I don't think of that as an offensive system. I always thought of it as the ability to line up and squeeze the life out of a game when you so choose by controlling the LOS, eating clock and being able to get positive gains in the run game when the opponent was relatively sure you were going to run. We have been unable to do that the last 2 seasons. The hope is we regain some of that this season with our OL/RB personnel and a play caller who calls games in a way that might lead to the OL/RB repping those situations in practice/games a whole lot more. It will not be a return to running on 3rd and 6 from the 44 yard line because you feel fine punting even if you don't get it. Those days are never coming back.
It's not a perfect comparison because a lot of these seasons had coaches tailoring things to their QBs/personnel (DaBoll in 2017 with Jalen as an example), but it's a pretty good general visual.
We will not be returning to the 2009-2012 offense. We also won't be doing what BoB did the last 2 years. The goal is to look more like what we were when Saban brought Kiffin in to mesh pro-style concepts with RPO stuff, which we did (in different varieties) from 2014-2020. Then BoB came in and basically ignored 2/3 of that "Alabama Playbook" Saban likes to talk about and just ran Patriots 2009 stuff, but without 5-10 year veterans at WR (Galloway, Moss, Welker) to read and adjust routes on the fly.
Rees ran a lot of RPO/Read Option at Notre Dame, but he also ran a lot of pre-called run plays where the OL are not just pass blocking regardless of the run/pass read. Powers with pulling guards, sweeps, stretch plays.....and then a lot of misdirection off of it (with WR/TE motions attached). We'll be motioning guys all over the place, misdirection, all that stuff that Sark and Lane had at the heart of their system. Rees does as well. BoB did none of it. That'll be the biggest difference, IMHO.
As for the "murderball" thing, I don't think of that as an offensive system. I always thought of it as the ability to line up and squeeze the life out of a game when you so choose by controlling the LOS, eating clock and being able to get positive gains in the run game when the opponent was relatively sure you were going to run. We have been unable to do that the last 2 seasons. The hope is we regain some of that this season with our OL/RB personnel and a play caller who calls games in a way that might lead to the OL/RB repping those situations in practice/games a whole lot more. It will not be a return to running on 3rd and 6 from the 44 yard line because you feel fine punting even if you don't get it. Those days are never coming back.
This post was edited on 8/3/23 at 11:28 am
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Posted on 8/3/23 at 11:32 am to SummerOfGeorge
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I think this gives a pretty good idea of the general difference in the last 2 years, the previous 5-6 and then the early Saban era.......with Rees' tenure as Notre Dame dropped in.
It's not a perfect comparison because a lot of these seasons had coaches tailoring things to their QBs/personnel (DaBoll in 2017 with Jalen as an example), but it's a pretty good general visual.
As I said in another post, I don't think BoB and Sark were that different in terms of balance. You passed more the last two years because you didn't get into the milking of the clock as much as you did in 2020 and 2019.
This post was edited on 8/3/23 at 11:33 am
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