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re: Who was the best Auburn football coach of the last 30 years?
Posted on 6/30/23 at 6:42 pm to MizzouTrue
Posted on 6/30/23 at 6:42 pm to MizzouTrue
All pulled upsets and all shite the bed.
Each went undefeated or won SEC.
Brother Hugh will make us forget all of them after Downtown Heisman Hank Brown leads us to a 50 game winning streak with 3 natties.
Each went undefeated or won SEC.
Brother Hugh will make us forget all of them after Downtown Heisman Hank Brown leads us to a 50 game winning streak with 3 natties.
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 7:51 pm to RollTide1987
Seems no coach has survived being shutout in the Iron Bowl?
Dye, Tuberville, Chizik, all fired after shutout Iron Bowl losses
Same goes for DuBose and Alabama in 2000
Bill Curry got shutout in his first Iron Bowl (1987) and he was gone 2 years later despite winning more games every year
Dye, Tuberville, Chizik, all fired after shutout Iron Bowl losses
Same goes for DuBose and Alabama in 2000
Bill Curry got shutout in his first Iron Bowl (1987) and he was gone 2 years later despite winning more games every year
Posted on 6/30/23 at 7:54 pm to MizzouTrue
Patrick Fain Dye
Posted on 6/30/23 at 7:55 pm to MizzouTrue
True. I was talking about for a total head coaching career. Ross had a few Maryland teams ranked in the final polls.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 7:56 pm to Ezra Blu Boudroux
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Who was the best Auburn football coach of the last 30 years?
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Patrick Fain Dye
Last coached in 1992
Posted on 6/30/23 at 8:05 pm to MizzouTrue
As of last year, Barn had $31.2M in dead money. They always pay the head coach, an a few more, not to coach.
Other schools with the Dead money, Nebraska, $28.5M. They had Bo, all he did was win and never lost more than 4 games a season. Nebraska finely gets a very good coach in Matt Rhule. When in Omaha, I was talking with a Nebraska football fan, he didn’t like Bo and doesn’t like Rhule. They don’t deserve a winning program.
Other schools with the Dead money, Nebraska, $28.5M. They had Bo, all he did was win and never lost more than 4 games a season. Nebraska finely gets a very good coach in Matt Rhule. When in Omaha, I was talking with a Nebraska football fan, he didn’t like Bo and doesn’t like Rhule. They don’t deserve a winning program.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 8:05 pm to MizzouTrue
Tater Tot
Posted on 6/30/23 at 8:07 pm to StringedInstruments
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Seems a little harsh
Does it? 2008, 2009, and 2011 were all pretty forgettable seasons with that same team minus Cam.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 8:20 pm to Auburntiger
I see that now, thx. Gotta be Chiznik
Posted on 6/30/23 at 8:22 pm to makersmark1
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Brother Hugh will make us forget all of them after Downtown Heisman Hank Brown leads us to a 50 game winning streak with 3 natties
His only claim to fame is that he beat Saban a couple of times at Ole Miss. Take a step back, look at his overall resume and tell me why anyone should be scared of Freeze. You might as well have rehired Malzahn.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 8:26 pm to BamaAlum02
quote:tell my you werent born then without telling me you werent born then
Tuberville wasn’t a great coach. He benefited from Alabama being an absolute train wreck.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 8:28 pm to MizzouTrue
Cheese
Posted on 6/30/23 at 8:29 pm to NotImber
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His only claim to fame is that he beat Saban a couple of times at Ole Miss. Take a step back, look at his overall resume
Sounds a lot like Gus at Auburn
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tell me why anyone should be scared of Freeze. You might as well have rehired Malzahn.
Freeze has yet to even coach a game at Auburn - who knows how he will compare to Gus on the field..... but his recruiting efforts are already more impressive than Gus's recruiting
Posted on 6/30/23 at 9:23 pm to lsudave1
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the 2010 team was a joke outside of Cam and Nick Fairley
People always say this, but they had Michael Dyer, who was an NFL talent but made too many poor decisions, a solid WR core (Adams, Zachary, and Blake were all good college WRs), a good offensive line (Ziemba and Pugh stand out in my mind), Lutzenkirchen (RIP), Lemonier, Bynes, Neiko Thorpe. Onterio McCallebb was an explosive change of pace back and returner. Demond Washington was an explosive returner and decent cornerback.
You’re right that many of those guys weren’t NFL talents. Many of them had some kind of physical limitation that kept them out of the NFL, but people talk about that team like it was a 6-6 team without Cam Newton. In reality, it was probably a 8-4/9-3 Citrus Bowl team without Cam.
This post was edited on 6/30/23 at 9:26 pm
Posted on 6/30/23 at 9:33 pm to ChexMix
Tuberville really wasn't the greatest of coaches. He was good but it is true that he did benefit from Alabama's NCAA sanctions. His tenure at Auburn went as follows:
1999: 5-6
2000: 9-4
2001: 7-5
2002: 9-4
2003: 8-5
2004: 13-0
2005: 9-3
2006: 11-2
2007: 9-4
2008: 5-7
Overall record: 85-40 (.680)
He won the SEC West twice, won an SEC championship in 2004, and beat Alabama six years in a row. Auburn was ready to fire him in 2003 and would have done so had Flight Aware not existed.
1999: 5-6
2000: 9-4
2001: 7-5
2002: 9-4
2003: 8-5
2004: 13-0
2005: 9-3
2006: 11-2
2007: 9-4
2008: 5-7
Overall record: 85-40 (.680)
He won the SEC West twice, won an SEC championship in 2004, and beat Alabama six years in a row. Auburn was ready to fire him in 2003 and would have done so had Flight Aware not existed.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 9:53 pm to RollTide1987
Tuberville was a good coach. He took over a really bad situation, had some good years, and then was ill-equipped to compete with Saban and to compete in the new era of college football more generally from a strategy standpoint. He was one of the last of a now dead breed of running game, ball control, field position coaches. You can see it in his games against weak teams. Auburn won a lot of those games 24-0, 28-3, 27-7, etc.
The spread offense and high-scoring game became ubiquitous and the game passed him by. And, of course, Saban coming into the state made it way more difficult for him.
The spread offense and high-scoring game became ubiquitous and the game passed him by. And, of course, Saban coming into the state made it way more difficult for him.
This post was edited on 6/30/23 at 9:56 pm
Posted on 6/30/23 at 10:08 pm to TeddyWestside
He took over a bad situation? Did Bowden really bottom out Auburn’s program?
Posted on 6/30/23 at 10:12 pm to MizzouTrue
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Did Bowden really bottom out Auburn’s program?
Auburn’s talent level in 1999 was as bad if not worse than it is right now. Bowden couldn’t recruit very well, but he did wonders his first few years with Dye’s players.
This post was edited on 6/30/23 at 10:13 pm
Posted on 6/30/23 at 10:18 pm to TeddyWestside
That’s interesting
I used to always prefer X and O’s coaches even if they couldn’t recruit
Now I really value coaches who can recruit good players. If they suck, you fire them and the next coach has good players to work with. Think that happened with Bob Stoops and OU in 2000 after they fired John Blake
I used to always prefer X and O’s coaches even if they couldn’t recruit
Now I really value coaches who can recruit good players. If they suck, you fire them and the next coach has good players to work with. Think that happened with Bob Stoops and OU in 2000 after they fired John Blake
Posted on 7/1/23 at 5:10 am to MizzouTrue
Tuberville and it is not close. The second that the last Dye recruit graduated (D. Craig) AU went off a cliff under Bowden. Bowden took his dads leftovers or guys FSU couldnt get into school because of criminal issues. Tubs rebuilt AU roster in two years and had elite talent by 2001. Yes, he almost got fired because the 2002 and 2003 teams should have competed for SEC or national championships but he was learning big time SEC football at the time. Jetgate opened his eyes to how important AU took things. Had a great 4 year run after that. Probably should have had a great 6 year run but all in all he was a very good coach. The 2010 team had a ton of Tuberville players that complimented Cam to the natty. They all graduated and Chizik was left was his own players and it crashed. Malzhan is a close second. He acheived about as much as Tubs and faced a much tougher road with Saban, Kirby and LSU. Gus would have been hands down #1 if he could have left playcalling duties behind. Just couldnt do it
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