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re: If the SEC adds Clemson and FSU, I think that'll be the end of SEC expansion

Posted on 6/14/23 at 1:38 pm to
Posted by twk
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 6/14/23 at 1:38 pm to
Call me in 2032 or thereabouts if you want to discuss adding ACC schools. They have a grant of rights that ties them up until 2036. OU and Texas managed to buy themselves out of the Big XII's grant of rights exactly one year early. I don't see any ACC schools doing better than that, unless there is some kind of coordinated move with the Big 10 to take in enough schools so that a vote to dissolve the ACC would succeed (I believe that would require at least a 2/3 majority, maybe more). I just don't see that happening.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20461 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 2:56 pm to
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Call me in 2032 or thereabouts if you want to discuss adding ACC schools. They have a grant of rights that ties them up until 2036. OU and Texas managed to buy themselves out of the Big XII's grant of rights exactly one year early. I don't see any ACC schools doing better than that, unless there is some kind of coordinated move with the Big 10 to take in enough schools so that a vote to dissolve the ACC would succeed (I believe that would require at least a 2/3 majority, maybe more). I just don't see that happening.
What I understand, is that the number of schools required would be eight.
8 schools leaving would break whatever clause forces a penalty to be paid.

So, who would be the 8 likely suspects? I'd say Clemson, Fla State, UNC, NC State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Duke, Ga Tech, and Miami would all have some level of attractiveness to the SEC.
Big 10 (thinking expansion and creating their own subconference) would probably be interested in a bunch of those, and figure in Boston College and Syracuse, maybe Pitt. I don't know about academics, I am looking at regional matchups that would come into play.... they have Penn State and Rutgers. Syracuse, BC and Pitt would fit nicely with them, give them a viable Northeast pod.

If the Big 10 and SEC want to break the NCAA, the path to do so would be to absorb the bigger schools from the ACC, a couple more from the Pac 12, and then form their own bi-conference tournament- SEC vs Big 10. Take the powers, let a few more trickle in, and those 2 conferences work together to exclude NCAA control.

Let the NCAA run a tournament alongside that with teams like Boise and UCF, and see which one gets the better viewing numbers

That's the direction I see this going; anybody that's worth watching will join one of the 2 big conferences, and they will break away and negotiate their own deals. And to hell with Cinderella/mid-majors, that's the role Vanderbilt and Purdue etc will fill.
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