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re: Is this not the definition of targeting?

Posted on 11/14/22 at 12:34 pm to
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 12:34 pm to
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Irrelevant to the penalty


Do you people even read the rules before talking?
"Defenseless" is literally in the first sentence of the rule (I bolded the word for you with the rest of the rule from the rulebook). You have to be "defenseless" for targeting to apply. You can try to claim it was a crown of the helmet rule (which is Article 3 which is a completely different rule and not called "targeting". The ref will say "contact with crown of the helmet" and there will NOPT be an ejection) but if you have listened to broadcasts all year, they have been saying that refs have been told to use that outlined strip on the top/front of the helmets as the what is considered the crown. Here is the rule:

ARTICLE 4. No player shall target and make forcible contact to the head or neck area of a DEFENSELESS opponent (See Note 2 below) with the helmet, forearm, hand, fist, elbow or shoulder. This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting (See Note 1 below). When in question, it is a foul (Rules 2-27-14 and 9-6). (A.R. 9-1-4-I-VI)

Note 1: "Targeting" means that a player takes aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the ball. Some indicators of targeting include but are not limited to:

Launch-a player leaving his feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward thrust of the body to make forcible contact in the head or neck area
A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area, even though one or both feet are still on the ground
Leading with helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area
Lowering the head before attacking by initiating forcible contact with the crown of the helmet
Note 2: Defenseless player (Rule 2-27-14). When in question, a player is defenseless. Examples of defenseless players include but are not limited to:

A player in the act of or just after throwing a pass.
A receiver attempting to catch a forward pass or in position to receive a backward pass, or one who has completed a catch and has not had time to protect himself or has not clearly become a ball carrier.
A kicker in the act of or just after kicking a ball, or during the kick or the return.
A kick returner attempting to catch or recover a kick, or one who has completed a catch or recovery and has not had time to protect himself or has not clearly become a ball carrier.
A player on the ground.
A player obviously out of the play.
A player who receives a blind-side block.
A ball carrier already in the grasp of an opponent and whose forward progress has been stopped.
A quarterback any time after a change of possession A ball carrier who has obviously given himself up and is sliding feetfirst.

Nothing about that play shows a "defenseless" player so does not apply.
This post was edited on 11/14/22 at 12:36 pm
Posted by meansonny
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Member since Sep 2012
25999 posts
Posted on 11/14/22 at 12:37 pm to
Read your own copy/paste carefully.

Defenseless redefines the requirements for targeting. It makes it an easier call (only needs 1 indicator).

You can have targeting with 3 indicators or targeting a defenseless player with 1.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33165 posts
Posted on 11/14/22 at 12:38 pm to
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Do you people even read the rules before talking?


Nah man. I don’t have a rule book handy.
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