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Posted on 11/7/22 at 6:05 am to
Posted by Shocco
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 11/7/22 at 6:05 am to
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This is all on Saban
How hard is it to hire people who have a proven skill set at their job and wants to work for him for lots of money. Except for 2-3 OCs, Saban seems to go after these 'tweeners' that are sort of borderline projects. Sometimes I wonder if he just hires off other people's recommendations. Most of his OCs seem to be people he thinks he can just plug then into his play book and they just call plays like its a bingo game....But as you are indicating, his history of bad hires is starting to show a track record.
This post was edited on 11/7/22 at 6:07 am
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
11258 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 6:41 am to
I was dog cussing BOB from Tiger Stadium to the point that I had LSU fans cracking up in the stands this weekend.

That said, let’s not pretend 2022 Bama is 2020 Bama offensively.

The OL was non-functional last year and while solid this year is nothing special.

The QB is incredible, no room to make excuses there.

RB group is a disappointment. Gibbs is electric but not great at picking up the blitz or going between the tackles. Jase and Williams are just guys unless they recover more explosiveness from their injuries.

WR group is a mess. No one who wasn’t a freshman was getting separation and still with the drops. Comparing them to Smith and Waddle is like comparing Margot Robbie to Bette Midler.

My point is BOB needs to go, but our offensive decline isn’t just about coaching. I don’t think anyone but Bryce and Gibbs would start for 2020 Bama and Gibbs wouldn’t be a feature back he would be a complement guy to Najee.
This post was edited on 11/7/22 at 6:42 am
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11841 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 7:51 am to
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How hard is it to hire people who have a proven skill set at their job and wants to work for him for lots of money.


I actually think this is something that is getting overlooked to be honest because I do not think it is easy for Saban to hire. I have read he is one of the hardest HC to work under and his expectations are on another level. That would suggest to me that it may be a lot harder to get a great OC & DC at UA under him. As someone mentioned earlier the 2 best OC hires he had were rehab hires of coaches who had only a few options.

When Saban retires I think UA will be getting calls from every agent who represents a HC but finding people to work under Saban I do not think is as easy.
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11460 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 9:30 am to
quote:

This is all on Saban
How hard is it to hire people who have a proven skill set at their job and wants to work for him for lots of money. Except for 2-3 OCs, Saban seems to go after these 'tweeners' that are sort of borderline projects. Sometimes I wonder if he just hires off other people's recommendations. Most of his OCs seem to be people he thinks he can just plug then into his play book and they just call plays like its a bingo game....But as you are indicating, his history of bad hires is starting to show a track record.




It's not as easy as it sounds. Saban is known as a perfectionist, workaholic, micromanager, and a real a-hole as a boss. The people that know him and have worked for him before are usually ok with that. You know what you are getting into when you take the job. Unless you want to build your resume, many coaches will take a job elsewhere that requires less dedication and hard work. Why do you think so many ex-Saban coaches are working in Athens? Similar pay, similar results, very different atmosphere and work environment. CNS has to take chances on guys that are hungry and willing to put up with him (they think) and the workload (again, they think). Then reality slaps them in the face and they are looking to bail the first chance they get before they end up divorced. That's the ugly truth many don't want to recognize about staff changes in Tuscaloosa.
This post was edited on 11/7/22 at 9:33 am
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