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re: When does possession start on a fumble recovery? Mond vs Brooks and SEC refs
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:08 pm to ceretonia
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:08 pm to ceretonia
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FIRM GRASP is the definition.
But what, exactly, does that mean? It’s subjective. And I think that’s exactly what the OP is trying to illustrate.
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Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:22 pm to GeauxldMember
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But what, exactly, does that mean? It’s subjective. And I think that’s exactly what the OP is trying to illustrate.
He's not trying to illustrate anything other than his own bias. That's why he removes all context in the plays and tries to frame everything as being what a simple image is.
The LSU player did not have control or possession of the ball in the OP's image. If it was a gif, it would show him bobbling the ball trying to scoop it up. Even in the still image, you can see the tips of his fingers aren't even wrapped around the ball.
So all I see in this thread are LSU fans who don't give a shite about reality, and just want to cry about the refs.
It's amazing how quickly people are to make themselves the victims regardless of actual reality.
The actual rule that's been in football since before I, or anyone else on this forum was born, is that if the ball touches ANYTHING out of bounds, then the ball is also out of bounds at that moment.
The only exception to this rule is if someone is in bounds while having possession. AKA, you can't stand out of bounds and touch a ball that someone has in their possession and it be out of bounds. However, if it's a pass and you are out of bounds and you touch the ball before the reception is made, then the ball will be incomplete and out of bounds.
Yet I don't think any of you really even remotely give a shite about the actual rules here.
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:28 pm to GeauxldMember
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But what, exactly, does that mean? It’s subjective. And I think that’s exactly what the OP is trying to illustrate.
But there is criteria that we are trained to look at. Completing a football action is one here (he’s attempting to pull ball to chest), adequate security time (> 1 second), maintaining ball position (here it is swatted away).
If there is question to whether you have possession that results in a change of custody, then the training is that you don’t have possession.
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:36 pm to GeauxldMember
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It’s subjective.
This!
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