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re: Class of 2025 Football Recruiting MEGATHREAD
Posted on 1/18/23 at 7:57 am to Tide or Die87
Posted on 1/18/23 at 7:57 am to Tide or Die87
Reportedly was resistant to learning the playbook.
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Posted on 1/18/23 at 8:16 am to Tide or Die87
Watching him in high school in Mobile, I thought he would be a starter at Bama by his sophomore year. He’s very talented. I agree, he couldn’t develop because the coaches kept switching him.
Posted on 1/18/23 at 8:23 am to Tide or Die87
We'll miss him on special teams but wasted is a stretch. Seems more like he was overranked out of high school.
He was always a "potential" or "raw" rating anyway. He could run like a deer and hit like a truck but he probably weighed 200 pounds when he got here and was never lauded as an instinctive player.
Time will tell, but there was a kid in this class that reminded me a lot of Kennedy in HS. Raylen Wilson that ended up signing with UGA.
Speed is very important at ILB, but being able to diagnose and go is more important. Any LB on our roster is fast enough if they can do that. CJ Mosley, Demeco Ryans, Reuben Foster were all elite because of instincts, not raw speed. If you get a half second head start on everyone else you're one of the best players on the field regardless of your speed measurables. If you're a half second behind everyone else, that track speed isn't enough to overcome
He was always a "potential" or "raw" rating anyway. He could run like a deer and hit like a truck but he probably weighed 200 pounds when he got here and was never lauded as an instinctive player.
Time will tell, but there was a kid in this class that reminded me a lot of Kennedy in HS. Raylen Wilson that ended up signing with UGA.
Speed is very important at ILB, but being able to diagnose and go is more important. Any LB on our roster is fast enough if they can do that. CJ Mosley, Demeco Ryans, Reuben Foster were all elite because of instincts, not raw speed. If you get a half second head start on everyone else you're one of the best players on the field regardless of your speed measurables. If you're a half second behind everyone else, that track speed isn't enough to overcome
Posted on 1/18/23 at 9:51 am to JubileeCity
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Watching him in high school in Mobile, I thought he would be a starter at Bama by his sophomore year. He’s very talented. I agree, he couldn’t develop because the coaches kept switching him.
not really accurate on the last part. You take a guy and switch positions on him because he isnt thriving in the one he is in so you can afford to do so PLUS coaches dont just tell them to switch, its up to the player to accept the request.
He was a heck of an athlete but sometimes thats just not enough
Posted on 1/18/23 at 10:41 am to Riseupfromtherubble
Going forward this is more reason I'm excited about the new ILB coach. Bone says the guy is known for communicating complex concepts in simplistic fashion to players.
Posted on 1/18/23 at 11:05 am to Shaft Williams
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Bone says the guy is known for communicating complex concepts in simplistic fashion to players.
I hope this is true. We need to play fast again on D
Posted on 1/18/23 at 11:23 am to JohnnyUtah
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You take a guy and switch positions on him because he isnt thriving in the one he is in so you can afford to do so PLUS coaches dont just tell them to switch, its up to the player to accept the request.
Serious question ... who was the last player to make a significant position change and be successful here? It always feels like those guys get shafted, somehow.
And by "significant" change, I don't mean moving from corner to safety, or tackle to guard. I mean something like Kennedy experienced, moving from linebacker to running back.
Posted on 1/18/23 at 11:30 am to Sauron
Cam Latu went from OLB to TE, Cyrus Jones went from WR to CB, and I think Trevon Diggs also started at WR and/or played both ways.
Posted on 1/18/23 at 11:32 am to MagillaGuerilla
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Cam Latu went from OLB to TE, Cyrus Jones went from WR to CB, and I think Trevon Diggs also started at WR and/or played both ways.
This is correct.
I'm not going to act like switching around is helpful, but the cream will rise to the top. Kennedy may have just been in over his head here. Shame, I figured he would be an impact guy. But he also was seemingly behind guys younger than him on the depth chart.
Posted on 1/18/23 at 11:42 am to Riseupfromtherubble
He was wasted. Kid didnt come here to play RB. Having to learn that position set him back for sure.
Posted on 1/18/23 at 11:44 am to JohnnyUtah
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You take a guy and switch positions on him because he isnt thriving in the one he is in
Is that what it was? I thought he was helping the team out because so many RBs got hurt.
Posted on 1/18/23 at 12:46 pm to Tide or Die87
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Is that what it was? I thought he was helping the team out because so many RBs got hurt
Same thing happened with Ronnie Clark. You didn't see any linebackers in the two deep changing positions.
It's not like the coaches looked at the roster and thought I bet Demouy is our best running back outside of the RB room. They looked around for a guy that fit the athletic profile and wasn't hacking it at his current spot.
Posted on 1/18/23 at 1:00 pm to Tide or Die87
I hope it doesn't happen with Emmanuel Henderson because I really think he's a much better running back than a lot people think or he could be used as a linebacker.
He's at WR now but I don't know if he sees the field at that position.
He's at WR now but I don't know if he sees the field at that position.
This post was edited on 1/18/23 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 1/18/23 at 1:52 pm to Joka2kold
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I hope it doesn't happen with Emmanuel Henderson because I really think he's a much better running back than a lot people think or he could be used as a linebacker.
Maybe has the size for safety but definitely not LB.
Posted on 1/18/23 at 1:57 pm to Tide or Die87
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He was wasted. Kid didnt come here to play RB. Having to learn that position set him back for sure.
He was back working at LB before some of the guys who have passed him even got here.
Posted on 1/18/23 at 2:34 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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They looked around for a guy that fit the athletic profile and wasn't hacking it at his current spot.
You are speculating. He was a freshman so the notion that he wasnt hacking it at his current spot doesn't make any sense with it being his first year. Also he wasnt the only guy moved. C. Leary was moved there as well. Reggie Ragland was a starter and spent some of the spring at TE when he was here.
Posted on 1/18/23 at 2:37 pm to Bham Bammer
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He was back working at LB before some of the guys who have passed him even got here.
So what he still lost valuable time playing out of position and learning a new position. He actually played RB in a game.
Posted on 1/18/23 at 2:39 pm to Tide or Die87
In State 2025 is loaded. 7 kids in the top 50 and three of them are in the top 15. I know that will change but thats impressive.
Posted on 1/18/23 at 3:15 pm to Tide or Die87
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You are speculating. He was a freshman so the notion that he wasnt hacking it at his current spot doesn't make any sense with it being his first year. Also he wasnt the only guy moved. C. Leary was moved there as well. Reggie Ragland was a starter and spent some of the spring at TE when he was here.
haha so you proved my point. You think if Leary didnt move to RB for a small while his outcome would be any different? And Reggie fits my example of sometime its not just about athletic ability. He obviously had more going for him then just that.
Most of these kids played multiple positions in HS so moving him around for a SHORT period of time isnt something out of the blue for them nor does it all the sudden stunt their growth at a single position. Hell Smitty worked at CB for a period of time as well, didnt seem to stop much of his growth at WR did it?
Posted on 1/18/23 at 4:13 pm to JohnnyUtah
Listen...if i attend a school like Alabama. I want to play one position and one position only. Far to much talent coming in for me to be learning different positions. Most of the kids have a hard enough time learning the defense let alone learning a position on the opposite side of the ball. If you think that doesnt stunt ones growth it is what it is. I disagree.
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