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No flame… Was Rick Barnes fired from texas?
Posted on 3/6/22 at 8:19 pm
Posted on 3/6/22 at 8:19 pm
Or was it a mutual separation ? I can’t remember.
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Posted on 3/6/22 at 8:21 pm to TheSwineAssault
He resigned the same way Houston Nutt resigned from Arkansas
Posted on 3/6/22 at 8:22 pm to TheSwineAssault
He was let go. They were just beaten by Butler and they fired him. Barnes wanted to stay. That same day they told him he was going to get 1 more year.
This post was edited on 3/6/22 at 8:25 pm
Posted on 3/6/22 at 8:38 pm to sms151t
Butler turned out to be a fine basketball team....
Posted on 3/6/22 at 8:59 pm to lewis and herschel
Barnes learned a bit from Wimp. That’s why he has resolve after Texas to be successful and is still believing in his self.
Damn good coach. Always has been.
Damn good coach. Always has been.
Posted on 3/6/22 at 8:59 pm to TheSwineAssault
They were going to give him one more year but the AD was going to hire all new assistants, which never ends well for anyone.
Posted on 3/6/22 at 10:40 pm to TheSwineAssault
I loved the guy, still do, one of my favorite coaches of all time at Texas (for any sport). For whatever reason, he became complacent, which often happens with long-term coaches, and I think needed a reboot. I root for him now at Tennessee, am happy when he wins. Sometimes a coach just needs a fresh start (like Mack Brown too, come to think of it).
This post was edited on 3/6/22 at 10:44 pm
Posted on 3/7/22 at 1:25 am to giveemhell
Idk if he even got complacent. He actively changed how he built his team after not getting success with the one and dones. Turns out a bunch of just average dudes and a Myles Turner who can't move laterally aren't amazing or anything. That team had a lot of hype too.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 5:28 am to MackDaddyBrown
From a Big XII fan from that era observing from outside Texas...
Barnes took Texas to the final four and had some great teams and then he fell off. Administrators thought the program had gotten stale. So he was pretty much given a "thanks, but we are moving on"
I will say that Barnes was well liked among the other coaches. I remember Oklahoma women's coach Sherry Coale saying that Rick Barnes was one of her "favorite people."
However, being a Texas hater I always said he kind of looked like an old buzzard sitting on a fence over there on the sidelines.
But Tennessee is lucky to have that "old buzzard" on their sidelines. Class guy, great coach.
Barnes took Texas to the final four and had some great teams and then he fell off. Administrators thought the program had gotten stale. So he was pretty much given a "thanks, but we are moving on"
I will say that Barnes was well liked among the other coaches. I remember Oklahoma women's coach Sherry Coale saying that Rick Barnes was one of her "favorite people."
However, being a Texas hater I always said he kind of looked like an old buzzard sitting on a fence over there on the sidelines.
But Tennessee is lucky to have that "old buzzard" on their sidelines. Class guy, great coach.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 6:55 am to Gunga Din
No lies there. It was a rare amicable parting and Barnes got the reboot he needed Remains to be seen if Texas will be better off
Posted on 3/7/22 at 8:42 am to TheSwineAssault
Mutual parting. Both sides knew it was time for a fresh start, and he left on good terms and no hard feelings
Posted on 3/7/22 at 8:46 am to Tehol Hornddict
Y’all fired him. He’s on record saying he definitely didn’t want to “mutually part ways” despite the spin Texas tried to put on it. This was before the TN/TX game this year.
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Texas wanted Barnes to retire so it wouldn’t have to publicly fire him, but Barnes wasn’t having it. “I was told one thing one day and one thing the next — it was all over the place,” Barnes explained this week. “It was inevitable. I had told our players so many times about not quitting that I didn't think I could quit and just say that I was leaving because that's not how I felt. My time was up and they needed to tell me that it was up because I didn't want my players to ever say to me, 'Coach, why would you quit?'. That was important to me. “To be honest, they wanted to have one of those really fun press conferences at the end where everyone sits up there and acts like it's a mutual parting of ways, and I said that I wasn't having any part of that. (Former Texas football coach) Mack (Brown) told me later that he wishes he would have done the same thing.” Barnes didn’t last on the market long. After being fired by Texas on March 27, 2015, Barnes signed up to become the head coach at Tennessee just four days later.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 10:09 am to giveemhell
quote:This basically sums up how just about every Texas basketball fan thinks of him. Unless Beard has a career at Texas for 15+ more years, Barnes will forever be Texas's GOAT basketball coach.
I loved the guy, still do, one of my favorite coaches of all time at Texas (for any sport). For whatever reason, he became complacent, which often happens with long-term coaches, and I think needed a reboot. I root for him now at Tennessee, am happy when he wins. Sometimes a coach just needs a fresh start (like Mack Brown too, come to think of it).
He probably had been a little complacent, and the program had gotten a bit stale, but his replacement, Shaka Smart, was not near the upgrade we thought he could've been. And it was a good lesson that we should've been thankful for what we had, because basketball has always been third on campus, and he still made Texas elite.
Honestly, it was the way he was fired that most Texas fans really disapproved of. Steve Patterson (the A.D. that last only 2 years because he was a terrible fit and everybody hated him and his penny-pinching ways) fired him over the phone the day after he lost in the first round to Butler in 2015 and he was on a plane for Knoxville either the same day or the next.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 10:14 am to TheSwineAssault
can't think of anything worse than a Texas Longhorn/Tennessee Vol thread
Posted on 3/7/22 at 11:41 am to XWing atAliciousness
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Honestly, it was the way he was fired that most Texas fans really disapproved of. Steve Patterson (the A.D. that last only 2 years because he was a terrible fit and everybody hated him and his penny-pinching ways) fired him over the phone the day after he lost in the first round to Butler in 2015 ...
Patterson was a Dick. Worst hire at Texas.
I liked Barnes, represented Texas well, said and did the right things. Attracted a steady parade of "one and done's' but rarely advanced deep into the tournament. Double edged sword; supremely talented individials, but impossible to build a team around annual rentals.
So many early exits will be Barnes' legacy, but we got to see KD wear "Texas" for a year.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 11:57 am to Ptins944
The Barnes, Pearl type hire is what I wanted Bama to do. Find a coach that had success at a major school, ran afoul, got sideways, no blueblood is gonna hire and is looking for redemption.
Stop looking for the diamonds at small schools. Get a guy that has a long history of winning, that nobody wants to touch i.e Rick Pitino.
Stop looking for the diamonds at small schools. Get a guy that has a long history of winning, that nobody wants to touch i.e Rick Pitino.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 1:48 pm to TheSwineAssault
Rick Barnes literally knew he was going to be the next head coach at Tennessee when he was conducting his farewell press conference at Texas. He was the perfect coach to hire at the perfect time for Tennessee. We may not ever win a natty with Rick, but we will always be a competent basketball program that recruits quality talent. Barnes is pumping out more NBA players than Pearl ever did at Tennessee. His teams play an exciting, unselfish brand of team basketball. We are now an annual fixture in the NCAA tourney. For that, I'll forever be thankful that we lucked out on Rick Barnes. He saved Tennessee basketball and revived the positive momentum that Pearl created for the program a few years prior. We were at the tipping point of sliding back into basketball irrelevance when we hired him after Cuonzo/Tendall.
Going from Pearl to Cuonzo was painful. We went from being one of the more exciting teams to watch to literally the most boring under Cuonzo. Donnie Tendall actually did a decent job in the one year he was here. But of course Dave Hart idiotically hired a guy that was on the verge of the NCAA banning him from coaching for 10 years. Fortunately for us we had to fire him for NCAA reasons at the same time Rick Barnes and Texas parted ways. Luckiest break of Dave Hart's failed tenure as UT AD.
Going from Pearl to Cuonzo was painful. We went from being one of the more exciting teams to watch to literally the most boring under Cuonzo. Donnie Tendall actually did a decent job in the one year he was here. But of course Dave Hart idiotically hired a guy that was on the verge of the NCAA banning him from coaching for 10 years. Fortunately for us we had to fire him for NCAA reasons at the same time Rick Barnes and Texas parted ways. Luckiest break of Dave Hart's failed tenure as UT AD.
This post was edited on 3/7/22 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 3/7/22 at 2:07 pm to psk_Vol
Barnes needs some post season success at TN before we see if he’s really that good. Your own fans have given him the name regular season Rick.
I’ll be interested to see how he recruits now that Kim English is gone. He currently has one player committed. Ranked #101 player in the country from Knoxville, TN. Class is sitting at 78
I’ll be interested to see how he recruits now that Kim English is gone. He currently has one player committed. Ranked #101 player in the country from Knoxville, TN. Class is sitting at 78
Posted on 3/7/22 at 2:22 pm to Ptins944
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Patterson was a Dick.
That was the entire point. He was brought in as a "hatchet man" that would tear down the inefficiencies of the Deloss Dodds era in our AD. That was an awful idea then and it looks even worse in hindsight.
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Double edged sword; supremely talented individials, but impossible to build a team around annual rentals.
Barnes thought that too and it's why he tried build a solid base with multi-year dudes like Javan Felix, Jonathan Holmes, Prince Ibeh but it didn't really work out. It didn't help that Myles Turner literally didn't learn how to run correctly until after his freshman year since he was supposed to be the guy to put us over the top.
This was all the exact opposite approach he should have taken given that Cal had just proven the viability of the one and done teams.
This post was edited on 3/7/22 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 3/7/22 at 3:16 pm to Golfer1
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Barnes needs some post season success at TN before we see if he’s really that good. Your own fans have given him the name regular season Rick.
I’ll be interested to see how he recruits now that Kim English is gone. He currently has one player committed. Ranked #101 player in the country from Knoxville, TN. Class is sitting at 78
Don't follow recruiting too closely personally but I'm not concerned about it. Know we had a future lottery pick on campus we have a good chance at this weekend. Rick Barnes always gets decent players and has a strong reputation among those with immediate NBA prospects. Besides, Rick's best years at Tennessee so far were anchored by 2 and 3 stars like Grant Williams and Admiral Schofield.
Personally my crazy arse unrealistic expectations are reserved for football. For basketball I just want to be able to count on being in the Dance every single season. Of course I want to win more in March, but we could and have had A LOT worse than Rick Barnes coaching the progam. He's a miracle bounce on the iron against Chicago Loyola(God was on their side their entire Final Four run) and a phantom 3 point foul shot at the buzzer against Purdue from two potential Final Four births within the last 5 years. Whether we ever get there or not is to be seen, but currently we have a program capable of a Final Four run under Barnes.
Anyone can say whatever they want about Barnes. At the end of the day is going to be a college basketball Hall of Fame coach. Will easily have 800+ wins by the time he retires assuming nothing unexcepted happens with his health. We are lucky to have him.
This post was edited on 3/7/22 at 3:18 pm
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