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Posted on 4/27/16 at 9:18 am to jangalang
Just making sure y'all feel safe while I'm dishing out harsh insults about rainbows and unicorns 
Plus this conversation is better than some of the stuff that has been discussed about Webb/Eli/SW's "weed problem" etc.
Plus this conversation is better than some of the stuff that has been discussed about Webb/Eli/SW's "weed problem" etc.
This post was edited on 4/27/16 at 9:19 am
Posted on 4/27/16 at 9:28 am to jangalang
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KK has never implied that our frosh tandom of receivers will be more productive
Well clearly you aren't reading this thread either then
Here was Weagle's comment
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If his WRs were better at Jax st and he faces better competition here, does that mean he's going to have even worse stats here?
Here is KK's response
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In no way are his WRs at JSU bigger talents than what Eli had at JSU. Kyle Davis and NCM are more talented on their worst day by a long shot than any WR on the JSU roster last year.
Not sure how bringing up how talented a kid is in response to "better WR" isn't implying that a kid's talent affects his production
"Sean White hasn't been an elite dual threat and causes concern!"
-Poster A
"Ya but he can make mad smoke rings! He is super talented!"
-JrJr
"So are you saying this talent will improve his running ability?"
-PosterA
"No. Just wanted to let people know, even though it in no way relevant to any argument presented."
-JrJr
This post was edited on 4/27/16 at 9:29 am
Posted on 4/27/16 at 9:29 am to GenesChin
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Even so, given our track record of getting zero production from top rated WRs over their entire careers, why do you think NCM/KD can produce year one?
Here are some guys with pedestrian/average careers (or so far at least) who were rated 4*s like NCM/KD
4* Trovon Reed
4* Quan Bray
4* Rico Louis
4* Tony Stevens
4* Jason Smith
4* Stanton Truitt
4* Jaylon Denson
4* Ryan Davis
4* Darius Slayton
There's been a common theme with these WR that we alllllllllll know too well. Bray, Reed, Louis, Smith, Truitt, and Davis were ALL QBs in HS converted to play WR in college. That is the dumbest thing Malzahn liked to do. I love that we're targeting WRs that are WRs. KD/NCM are WR, plain and simple, and there really is value in that in terms of transitioning talent to production.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 9:31 am to jangalang
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Have you even read this thread? KK is arguing that freshmen NCM/KD will be better WRs as FR than what Eli Jenkins had.
No he is not.
I'm arguing that they're more talented WRs (if I said "better" that's what I meant) than what he has at JSU. Yes, Barge was more productive....but as I've mentioned there are a lot of variables that go into productivity.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 9:32 am to WareagleKK
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There's been a common theme with these WR that we alllllllllll know too well.
I'm not arguing that NCM/KD seem to be the real deal and I'm excited about their future careers. I am just pointing out that we've had a ton of highly rated guys we were excited about who never lived up to the billing.
I can't justify that Jenkins would have high quality targets based on 18 yr old freshmen who haven't played a game in college. Especially when AU historically rarely has FR WRs worth anything, definitely not freshmen
Posted on 4/27/16 at 9:35 am to GenesChin
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If we have a derp QB again (which is possible), then sure KD and NCM will struggle to break 300 yards for the whole season. But to compare Barge and KD/NCM from a pure talent perspective is kinda silly. I'm not arguing production. Haven't been the whole time. I'm arguing talent. There's way too many variables that go into production for my liking (QB play most notably). If you put guys like KD or NCM on JSU's roster with Eli at QB last year I'd venture to guess they'd do pretty dang well.
Did you intentionally look over this clarification or what?
Posted on 4/27/16 at 9:36 am to WareagleKK
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I'm arguing that they're more talented WRs (if I said "better" that's what I meant) than what he has at JSU. Yes, Barge was more productive....but as I've mentioned there are a lot of variables that go into productivity.
That is a little BS though when you consider guys like Tony Stewart are "more talented" than Jax St wrs.
When you are talking about drop off in WRs for Jenkins, production is what we are talking about. So either your talent argument was A) completely pointless or B) arguing that talent = more production
Posted on 4/27/16 at 9:37 am to GenesChin
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That is a little BS though when you consider guys like Tony Stewart are "more talented" than Jax St wrs.
Are you drunk?
Posted on 4/27/16 at 9:38 am to jangalang
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Did you intentionally look over this clarification or what?
The original argument is whether or not Eli Jenkins will have a drop off in WR play.
If someone argues
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I'm not arguing production.
How in the fricking world is bringing up NCM/KD talent in any way relevant? WR play IS production. Emory Blake wasn't ultra talented but he was a great WR for us. NCM/KD are clearly more talented but I would feel better with Blake
This post was edited on 4/27/16 at 9:39 am
Posted on 4/27/16 at 9:41 am to jangalang
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Are you drunk?
Are you mentally handicapped?
Every WR at Auburn is likely more talented than the most talented JaxSt WR. I would much rather have their guys who have shown production than our underachieving band of disappointing brothers
If someone is justifying that Eli Jenkins won't have a drop off in WR play at Auburn simply because the talent ceiling of FR WRs, that seems pretty overly posibarner to me
This post was edited on 4/27/16 at 9:43 am
Posted on 4/27/16 at 9:42 am to GenesChin
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A) completely pointless
Posted on 4/27/16 at 9:43 am to jangalang
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jangalang
Time to take this argument to .gifs, guys.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 9:43 am to TheJones
quote:debatable
Plus this conversation is better than some of the stuff that has been discussed about Webb/Eli/SW's "weed problem" etc
Posted on 4/27/16 at 9:43 am to joeyb147
frick off Joey
Posted on 4/27/16 at 9:44 am to jangalang
Again
What the frick are you talking about?
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little BS though when you consider guys like Tony Stewart are "more talented" than Jax St wrs.
What the frick are you talking about?
Posted on 4/27/16 at 9:46 am to jangalang
He wants to go fast
Posted on 4/27/16 at 9:46 am to TheJones
I have no chill, bro.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 9:46 am to TheJones
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This post was edited on 4/27/16 at 9:47 am
Posted on 4/27/16 at 9:46 am to jangalang
I have no chill, bro.
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