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re: Tony Barbee

Posted on 1/27/13 at 5:53 am to
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61596 posts
Posted on 1/27/13 at 5:53 am to
Moral victories are not moral.






Just saying.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41077 posts
Posted on 1/27/13 at 8:50 am to
When that kid basically raped the Ole Miss player on the inbounds with 6 secs left in the game, I thought I was gonna have a heart attack. Our basketball experience in a nutshell. Awful. fricking awful. I agree with Ross: its not like we are asking for NCAA tourney runs. NIT berths would make me happy.
Posted by AUtigerNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2011
17107 posts
Posted on 1/27/13 at 9:34 am to
Well I definitely want NCAA tourney runs. NIT sucks I'm sorry.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
22332 posts
Posted on 1/27/13 at 9:58 am to
Like I have said many many times....It's Auburn basketball. That program is a disaster and has been for years. Invested all of that money into that new arena and look at the product.

BTW; Under Jacob's leadership take a look at the shape of the football program, basketball and baseball. Auburn is reaping what is has sown because of the good 'ole boy system down there.
Posted by AUtigR24
Happy Hour
Member since Apr 2011
19755 posts
Posted on 1/27/13 at 10:18 am to
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He's got another year left. I've seen improvement which is all I ask for the bball team. Keep improving and keep your job.


I have to disagree, I haven't seen ANY improvement. Our half-court offense blows. Defense is sloppy with the exception of a few players. We foul and turn the ball over waaaay to much wich is directly related to being out of position and poor fundamentals. The improvement you're seeing is just individual guys making plays. Barbee seat is extremely hot next season
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12123 posts
Posted on 1/27/13 at 10:23 am to
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Like I have said many many times....It's Auburn basketball. That program is a disaster and has been for years. Invested all of that money into that new arena and look at the product.


If they move forward with the Arena completely replacing Beard Eaves in all aspects then i am all for the money being invested in it. BE was a shithole and yet there was constantly things being done in there such as graduation and concerts (at least when I was there). That would make it a university investment, not just into basketball.

But yeah, I agree that the program is traditionally a disaster and I really think that Auburn has the support now to make a run at things if we can gain some traction. I would compare it to Florida basketball before Donovon arrived there. If we can get to the NIT a couple years in a row and win a few games there, then we can get the players to get to the NCAA and so forth.
Posted by Bow to Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
1830 posts
Posted on 1/27/13 at 11:10 am to
Have any of y'all even played basketball? AU's bball program has been in the cellar of one pf the worst basketball conferences in the nation. Now everyone wants NCAA bids bc Barbee has been here for "x" years. Ridiculous. Yea I want to win to but what superstar players want to go to AU? We aren't on TV or ever talked about.

The traditional success of the football program has made idiots of a lot of people bc they expect the same from bball when the program has never invested the same.

Grow up Peter Pans, Barbee is solid.
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12123 posts
Posted on 1/27/13 at 11:39 am to
quote:

AU's bball program has been in the cellar of one pf the worst basketball conferences in the nation. Now everyone wants NCAA bids bc Barbee has been here for "x" years. Ridiculous. Yea I want to win to but what superstar players want to go to AU? We aren't on TV or ever talked about.



We're not talking about superstar players and we aren't talking about NCAAs. We need solid players and the NIT shouldn't be out of the question with a solid team after a coach has been in place for a few years. From the NIT, you can build your team up some more.
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
22647 posts
Posted on 1/27/13 at 11:43 am to
Barbee had a rough first couple of years recruiting. Some of that was his fault and a lot of that wasn't. I'm frustrated with him, but I believe he's fought a few hurdles out of his control that has set him back. I do see a talented class he just brought in. The key is actually keeping this bunch. The next class looks good too. I still think he needs another year or two. If we keep seeing these same problems and no improvement with the players he's bringing in then he needs to go.
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12123 posts
Posted on 1/27/13 at 11:46 am to
Like I said in the Jacobs thread a few down, I don't want Jacobs to replace anyone else. I think Jacobs needs to go before any of the coaches from here out and let the new AD take care of it.
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
7730 posts
Posted on 1/27/13 at 11:48 am to
There hasn't been any improvement at all. At least by this point, Lebo had a winning season. And that was without the great recruiting classes Barbee has been putting together. It's the third year of this failed experiment, and I can't remember another basketball coach in Auburn history doing this poorly having been given so many resources. Scott Drew took over Baylor basketball when they were at their worst. They were a "cellar" program. He didn't make excuses and say they were too young for three years. At some point, the excuses have to stop and the buck has to stop at the top. If we can just go to the NIT once in a few years, I'll be happy with our basketball coach.
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
22647 posts
Posted on 1/27/13 at 11:54 am to
He's only put together one good class and all he's been given is a facility. They had to cancel the "midnight madness" opening night because it didn't fit in with the football schedule. Like I said, I'm frustrated with him, but let's not act like he's been given a full deck of cards to play with. Our AD still sucks and doesn't fully support basketball here.
Posted by AUtigerNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2011
17107 posts
Posted on 1/27/13 at 11:56 am to
We have been to NCAA tourneys before. No reason why we can't bring that back with a new arena. I'm not talking NCAA every year. But should make an effort to make the tourny once every few years. Not once a decade.
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
22647 posts
Posted on 1/27/13 at 12:02 pm to
Just remember when we're in it for players like Trevor Lacey and something like this happens.

LINK

We're our own worst enemy at times. I've never seen a program have to fight itself to be successful at something.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38012 posts
Posted on 1/27/13 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

BTW; Under Jacob's leadership take a look at the shape of the football program, basketball and baseball. Auburn is reaping what is has sown because of the good 'ole boy system down there.


Our athletic programs have been awful on a regular basis under that awful good ole boy system... absolutely.

You nailed it dude.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38012 posts
Posted on 1/27/13 at 12:19 pm to
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Grow up Peter Pans, Barbee is solid.


If that was the case, wouldn't we be seeing AU basketball teams that at least were losing because they were less talented, not losing because they were less talented and looked and performed like they don't know their asses from a hole in the ground on the floor?
Posted by au4you
Alabama
Member since Dec 2010
2508 posts
Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:00 pm to
We get rid of Barbee and we will be in the same exact position 4 years from now, maybe worse. We are competitive now and I am happy about it. I don't expect to lose by 15 night in and night out.

With KT, Shaq, Price, Denson, BGJ and ADT we will be winning these close ones, because they will only get better.
Posted by Bow to Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
1830 posts
Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:22 pm to
Attrition has hurt barbee in the past. This year its taken him to long to find the right lineup. The only issue I have with Barbee is why Wallace is the nest we can do at PG
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
22647 posts
Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:29 pm to
Meh, Wallace was the only one effective against Henderson last night. He hurts us offensively by having zero outside shot, but he also saved us some points last night defensively. He worked his arse off. We're starting to get the pieces in place. We still need a decent PG and some size at the four. I'm still liking how the freshmen are coming along. I just wish Barbee would give them more opportunity. I guess I see why he does what he does sometimes when you have something happen like the foul at the end by Shaq. They'll learn though.
Posted by AUtigR24
Happy Hour
Member since Apr 2011
19755 posts
Posted on 1/27/13 at 2:15 pm to
It doesn't take 4 and 5* recruits to make the NIT. Take a look at some of the teams that make it this year.
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