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re: Texas A&M made Gus' arse quit in 2014.

Posted on 9/14/17 at 6:13 pm to
Posted by N97883
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Posted on 9/14/17 at 6:13 pm to
I kind of think kansas State, even though it was a win. The offense was stuck in first gear all game, maybe he thought after that and FSU loss (which was not offense fault at all) that everyone figured his system out.
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 9/14/17 at 6:43 pm to
quote:

I kind of think kansas State, even though it was a win. The offense was stuck in first gear all game, maybe he thought after that and FSU loss (which was not offense fault at all) that everyone figured his system out.

Do you not remember our offense the whole year up until after the A&M game?

If you want to argue that one game broke Gus then the A&M game would be it easily.
This post was edited on 9/14/17 at 6:45 pm
Posted by jrljr
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Posted on 9/14/17 at 10:00 pm to
Marsh is going to be a stud. You can think what you want, but that kid is a football player!!
Posted by N97883
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Posted on 9/14/17 at 10:26 pm to
I'm not going to say anything has broken Gus, in his mind at least. He's a saint.

Here's my argument and I am pulling it out my arse.

Pruitt had the right idea, but he still could not keep auburn from scoring with a minute left.

Snyder a brilliant coach built on that, used it as a blueprint, but he didn't have the athletes. So it was a close 20-14 win and thank you Marshall for completing a clutch 3rd down. Surely Gus the genius will learn and feed off that, that was our 2013 lsu game... right?

LSU was in garbage mode, the win wasn't indicative of the state of auburn offense.

MsSt. Had the plan thank you K State- and they had the athletes.

Tammy. Sloppy or really unlucky play by auburn, not sure Tammy watches game film so I don't think it was preparation.

UGA. Auburn scores 7. UGA the next fricking 34. They knew the plan thank you MsSt, K State and FSU.

Bama? 8 redzone attempts and 2 TDs. They knew too. But that was the game where the long bombs to Coates worked.

So when I look at the K State game I think it showed the offense was broken and missing a transmission and what time told us was Gus had stopped making adjustments back in 2013 and good defenses ate him up for it.

RedZone
2013- 61 attempts, converted 72% to TDs, 88% to a score.
2014 - 58 attempts, 65% TDs, 88% a score.
2015 - 51 attempts, 62% TDs, 90% a score.
2016 - 55 attempts, 56% TDs, 85% scores.
2017 - 6 attempts (3 per game vs 4.5 normal) 50% attempts became TDs and we've scored 100% of the attempts.

This post was edited on 9/15/17 at 5:37 am
Posted by AU4real35
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 9/15/17 at 8:50 am to
I think you're half right, during his post game interview it really seem like something changed in him. It's like he totally wrapped up the season after this loss.

LINK

Start about the 2:30 mark... he talks about "having dreams and goals for that season and they just didn't get it done", seems as though he just quit even though we were still in the race.
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 9/15/17 at 9:02 am to
Basically you just argued that the FSU game broke him by ignoring a lot of offensive production.
Posted by AU4real35
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 9/15/17 at 9:07 am to
It's as simple as this, half way decent passer with excellent speed qb and good rb, we will score with anybody in the league. For some reason he went away from that and now we literally have a below average offense.Gus doesn't want to be known as a read option only type of offensive genius and it's going to cost him his job.
Posted by weaglebeagle
Alabama
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 9/15/17 at 2:35 pm to
I think this is the real answer. All of Auburn's success under Malzahn has been with the read option. Without that you have a slightly above average team, see 2009, 2015-present. I think Gus is so determined to prove that he isn't a one trick pony and it's working to his detriment.
Posted by FearlessFreep
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/15/17 at 3:28 pm to
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So when I look at the K State game I think it showed the offense was broken and missing a transmission and what time told us was Gus had stopped making adjustments back in 2013 and good defenses ate him up for it.
Disagree, somewhat.

Sure, the offense sputtered against KState, but their defense was legit for a Big12 team, and it was arguably the biggest OOC home game in their history (not to mention the first road OOC victory for AU in 17 years).

If you want to look at the game that screwed Gustav's concept of how his offense should look, try the opener that year versus Arky. JJ looked like a worldbeater (statistically, that one half ended up being the best game of his career), and might have planted the idea in Gustav's head that he could take a drop-back passer and still run things like he did with Cam/Nick.
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