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If we fire Gus, I believe

Posted on 12/9/15 at 11:02 pm
Posted by AU4real35
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 11:02 pm
that AU will sink into a state of mediocrity that we've never seen before. I don't believe this year defines how good of an offensive coach he really is. He's made his fair share of mistakes, but I believe with a real threat at qb his offense is next to unstoppable. If we could find a way to field a top fifty defense with his offense clicking it's just a matter of time before we are winning another ship. Everybody jump in the posibarner water, it's good!
Posted by AUX3
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 11:08 pm to
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Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 11:10 pm to
Well we aren't even considering firing him this year...so you get your wish I guess?
Posted by AU4real35
Member since Jan 2014
16065 posts
Posted on 12/9/15 at 11:13 pm to
quote:

Well we aren't even considering firing him this year...so you get your wish I guess?


This post is more about longevity and letting him build a program, even if it costs us a couple more seasons of mediocrity.
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 11:19 pm to
Well I'm on your boat there but I also want to see what he does next year before making up my mind.

I think 7-8 wins next year and he stays depending on how the losses look. The people saying he needs 10 are delusional.
Posted by Rig
BHM
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 11:19 pm to
I agree with you and I hope we don't become too impatient at the end of Saban's reign at Alabama.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 11:21 pm to
Gus wont be fired any time soon. Nor should he. Barring another season like this one, he will be here in 2017.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 12/9/15 at 11:25 pm to
Firing Gus would be a mistake. I think he's still figuring out this college HC thing, and while it might take him a few years to find his groove I think but once he does I think he could be a long term coach that maintains us at a high level for many years. A lot of great coaches who were at schools for a long time took a few years find themselves, but not enough schools give coaches time these days. Everybody is scrambling trying to find a Nick Saban that will give immediate results and have you playing for a NC every year, but that's not realistic. Schools should be happy with a Mark Richt type. Had a few more things over the years bounced his way he'd be the next Bobby Bowden.
Posted by stevo1905
Member since Nov 2010
2082 posts
Posted on 12/9/15 at 11:26 pm to
His playcalling is a bit questionable at times and he struggles in the red zone without a DT QB being able to make plays when the margin of error decreases, but he is the best coach Auburn has had in a long time. The fluctuating nature of his teams is frustrating, but his failures can mostly be explained when considering the circumstances around each bad season. 2014: 36 ppg allowed in our final 6 SEC games. 2015: Injuries to our most impactful defensive players along with Sean White, and poor play from our projected starting QB which resulted in several scheme adjustments that severely altered the coaches' anticipated style of play.

The fact remains that when he has the tools in place, Auburn is one of the best teams in the country and is difficult to stop. You can find players like Nick Marshall. If Deshaun Watson were on this team, we likely would've played in Atlanta last week. Same goes with Trevon Boykin, JT Barrett, and Dak Prescott.
Posted by TheSandman
Notasulga
Member since Nov 2010
19411 posts
Posted on 12/9/15 at 11:31 pm to
Now that I'm done melting I'm off the "Gus is on the Hot Seat" shortbus

We need stability more than anything.

Well, that and a new AD
Posted by AU4real35
Member since Jan 2014
16065 posts
Posted on 12/9/15 at 11:44 pm to
quote:

Firing Gus would be a mistake. I think he's still figuring out this college HC thing, and while it might take him a few years to find his groove I think but once he does I think he could be a long term coach that maintains us at a high level for many years. A lot of great coaches who were at schools for a long time took a few years find themselves, but not enough schools give coaches time these days. Everybody is scrambling trying to find a Nick Saban that will give immediate results and have you playing for a NC every year, but that's not realistic. Schools should be happy with a Mark Richt type. Had a few more things over the years bounced his way he'd be the next Bobby Bowden.


People are looking for another Saban, but the guy put together a damn machine(I just vomited)... He implemented his process and recruits like no other. He gets almost every recruit he wants, it seems, which really puts everyone else at a disadvantage out of the gate. I honestly believe that with a good read option qb, and a serviceable defense, we will beat them more than they'll beat us with Gus at the helm. Richt's firing blew my mind, I give it to Georgia, selling out and really making a push for something fresh and new to win a ship, but there's no way in hell I could've ever pulled that trigger as an AD. Especially bringing in someone who has never had the responsibilities of a HC, what a gamble, that will more than likely cost the AD his job... I mean Richt was a few breaks away from a couple of championships.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 1:25 am to
Gus is still learning how to be a HC. I still have faith in him. I have seen what his O's can do. This year was just a mess from the start. We do need to put more emphasis on recruiting the D side of the ball. I hope Gus has learned that.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61634 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 2:00 am to
quote:

I agree with you and I hope we don't become too impatient at the end of Saban's reign at Alabama.




Not picking on Rig but this is the reason that your wish more than likely wont happen



Auburn is too infatuated with what Alabama does to be patient.


Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
28898 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 5:03 am to
I didn't realize there were talks to fire him this year.
Posted by AU4real35
Member since Jan 2014
16065 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 5:09 am to
quote:

This post is more about longevity and letting him build a program, even if it costs us a couple more seasons of mediocrity.
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 6:06 am to
quote:

This post is more about longevity and letting him build a program



Is Gus connected enough to build a program? All the support staff he brought in were basically Auburn's also rans. Fired Yox to bring in his assistant coach. Same with all the other guys. Keeping Scott Fountain was a bad sign.

We shall see see how he does with Tiny John Franklin at Qb, until he gets hurt.
Posted by warcry
Mobile
Member since Aug 2011
4770 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 6:44 am to
Gus will turn this thing around. I am completely confident and even if it takes a few seasons, I support the guy.
Posted by AUveritas
Member since Aug 2013
2920 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 6:45 am to
This post was edited on 12/10/15 at 6:46 am
Posted by AUNashville
New Haven
Member since Jul 2014
3561 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 6:51 am to
quote:

This post is more about longevity and letting him build a program, even if it costs us a couple more seasons of mediocrity.


I like the idea of a coach building a program...we're seeing CBP do it right now. We've been spoiled as Auburn fans that our past two coaches have gotten us to the title game within their first two seasons. This however has become the norm for college football. Coaches have a better chance to play in a NC in their first 5 seasons than anytime after that.

Gus will be in his 4th season next year, and I'm worried because our program is lacking an identity. Sure, we know the offense that we want to run, but it proved problematic this season, and our defense is about to be on it's 5th coordinator in 6 years.

Is Gus capable of building a program? That is the question in everybody's head. He's had 3 years to show progress, but the program has only regressed...
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79179 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 8:30 am to
quote:

Well I'm on your boat there but I also want to see what he does next year before making up my mind.

I think 7-8 wins next year and he stays depending on how the losses look. The people saying he needs 10 are delusional.


Agree. Missed on a QB this year and it just derailed everything. Early season defensive woes obviously didn't help. That still comes back to Gus, but I do give him some credit for avoiding blowouts and not losing the team.

If he can get 8 wins next season, avoid blowout losses, hopefully win a rivalry game and show improvement and much, much more sound decision making, I'll return to optimism.

Unfortunately, I think there is also a chance he wins 7-8 games with a few blowouts to rivals, with more dumbass decision making and we're still forced to keep him.

We need him to pull his head out of his arse and get back to work. Put his best players in good positions. Stop trying to convince us of his genius.
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