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Can someone tell me how Gus is different than the Chiz so far?
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:11 am
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:11 am
I do enjoy being overly negative at times on AU boards to rustle jimmies, but this is a sort of serious question for people that know football. My internal monologue as I wrote this post, doe:
The season is obviously young and I don't think I am ready to hit the panic button until I see what we day next Saturday afternoon in Baton Rouge. But, I was thinking about something. From an on the field product through the first 29 games of their career at Auburn:
Gus: 22-7
Gene: 24-5
Gene had a magical season in his second year with a dynamic JUCO QB with many clutch late wins
Gus had a magical season in his first year with a dynamic JUCO QB with many clutch late wins
Gene's first year, we started out 5-0 and the wheels came off
Gus' 2nd year, we started out 5-0, and the wheels came off after the Ole Miss game
Gust and Gene both started out their 3rd years with a close wins over a decent power 5 team and were lucky to win a game against a far inferior program
There are people on here very close to the program, do you think the program is in better shape at this point under Gus than it was at this point under Chizik? I just have a terrible feeling that this season is going to look like our 2011 season. Don't get me wrong, I think Gus is a wonderful human being and a fabulous offensive mind. I just hope he can get things turned around because we have been pretty awful as a program since the Ole Miss game last year. The on the field issues appear to be pretty similar to what we saw in Chizik's tenure.
Other eerily similar things
Both first names begin with G
Both last names have a Z in them
Both have been known to have horrible game day attire (shacket vs short sleeve turtleneck)
Both really go to town on gum during games
The season is obviously young and I don't think I am ready to hit the panic button until I see what we day next Saturday afternoon in Baton Rouge. But, I was thinking about something. From an on the field product through the first 29 games of their career at Auburn:
Gus: 22-7
Gene: 24-5
Gene had a magical season in his second year with a dynamic JUCO QB with many clutch late wins
Gus had a magical season in his first year with a dynamic JUCO QB with many clutch late wins
Gene's first year, we started out 5-0 and the wheels came off
Gus' 2nd year, we started out 5-0, and the wheels came off after the Ole Miss game
Gust and Gene both started out their 3rd years with a close wins over a decent power 5 team and were lucky to win a game against a far inferior program
There are people on here very close to the program, do you think the program is in better shape at this point under Gus than it was at this point under Chizik? I just have a terrible feeling that this season is going to look like our 2011 season. Don't get me wrong, I think Gus is a wonderful human being and a fabulous offensive mind. I just hope he can get things turned around because we have been pretty awful as a program since the Ole Miss game last year. The on the field issues appear to be pretty similar to what we saw in Chizik's tenure.
Other eerily similar things
Both first names begin with G
Both last names have a Z in them
Both have been known to have horrible game day attire (shacket vs short sleeve turtleneck)
Both really go to town on gum during games
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Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:14 am to ever43
Gus has teeth?
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:15 am to ever43
If I remember correctly, Chiz's recruiting classes were good, but weren't making it to the playing field.
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:16 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Gus has teeth?
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:19 am to ever43
Gus was OC
Chiz was DC
Chiz was DC
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:47 am to BowlJackson
Gus is in charge of his side of the ball. And much more disciplined
Posted on 9/13/15 at 1:49 am to ever43
Chiz won the ship and Gus didn't.
Posted on 9/13/15 at 4:17 am to AU4real35
Discipline. Better under Gus.
Posted on 9/13/15 at 5:02 am to ever43
quote:
Can someone tell me how Gus is different than the Chiz so far?
Chiz got da ring
Gus got da waffle house
Posted on 9/13/15 at 7:01 am to LanierSpots
Gus' has a much better staff around him than Chiz did as well. Auburn fans read way to much preseason garbage there were reason to believe this team would struggle out of the gate. There are also reasons to believe this team will improve and be strong by the end of the season but can they survive then next two weeks?
Posted on 9/13/15 at 7:45 am to ever43
I don't get the feeling that we are losing the team like Chizik did and Gus doesn't have a runaway set of coaches that are secretly undermining the team philosophy.
My big problem with Gus so far that was easily correctable to this point but isn't at this point is this: we never play backups when we have the chance. If we do play backups, we don't allow them to run a full offense to begin to learn. In two years, Jeremy Johnson has thrown 78 passes and actually started a game last year. There is no way that he shouldn't have been getting garbage time and actually running the full offense in two years of us playing pretty well.
On paper, there are a lot of similarities but realistically there are huge management gaps between the two.
My big problem with Gus so far that was easily correctable to this point but isn't at this point is this: we never play backups when we have the chance. If we do play backups, we don't allow them to run a full offense to begin to learn. In two years, Jeremy Johnson has thrown 78 passes and actually started a game last year. There is no way that he shouldn't have been getting garbage time and actually running the full offense in two years of us playing pretty well.
On paper, there are a lot of similarities but realistically there are huge management gaps between the two.
Posted on 9/13/15 at 7:49 am to Warfarer
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I don't get the feeling that we are losing the team like Chizik did and Gus doesn't have a runaway set of coaches that are secretly undermining the team philosophy.
^^ THIS ^^
Right now mainly I see a team that is dealing with a slew of injuries on defense & a headcase at QB. If we get at least Lawson & Mathews back for LSU this is a totally different defense.
We are not seeing the ridiculous off field issues. All the guys we are signing are making it to school. We are starting to put players again in the NFL including guys that go undrafted. I also saw WAY more effort out there than under Chiz in 2011, 2012.
Posted on 9/13/15 at 8:49 am to ever43
Malzahn will wind up crashing and burning just like Chizik. Wait and see.
Posted on 9/13/15 at 9:45 am to BowlJackson
Gus's secretary is named Lincoln.
Chiz's secretary was named Kennedy.
Both are Sagittarius.
Wear size 36 pants
Propensity for strange coaching get ups. Chiz the smock. Gus the pullover vest even when its hot.
Both need to get the damn bagman network to do better so we dont lose recruits to bama.
Chiz's secretary was named Kennedy.
Both are Sagittarius.
Wear size 36 pants
Propensity for strange coaching get ups. Chiz the smock. Gus the pullover vest even when its hot.
Both need to get the damn bagman network to do better so we dont lose recruits to bama.
Posted on 9/13/15 at 9:45 am to ever43
I would add that Gus played a big part in getting those 24 wins for Gene.
Posted on 9/13/15 at 1:23 pm to allin2010
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Discipline. Better under Gus.
Off the field? Yes. On it? Not sure about that.
Posted on 9/13/15 at 1:29 pm to ever43
It's really a pattern with Auburn coaches in general. Bowden, Tuberville and Chizik all had perfect seasons, then mediocre season(s), then flamed out miserably in their last season. Looking back, it seems Tuberville was the best coach of any of them. I'm hoping Gus can break the cycle, but it's really just extremely puzzling.
Posted on 9/13/15 at 1:30 pm to AUTiger5
I will not put the 2 names in the same sentence. EVER
This post was edited on 9/13/15 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 9/13/15 at 1:31 pm to AUTiger5
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Off the field? Yes. On it? Not sure about that.
It's clearly better on it as well.
Posted on 9/13/15 at 9:13 pm to blzr
I see Scarbinsky reads the board.
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