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re: Bobby Lowder distancing himself from Chizik?

Posted on 10/17/12 at 1:17 pm to
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
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Posted on 10/17/12 at 1:17 pm to
Bobby Lowder was shitty in a lot of ways but he still brought this university into the 21st century. I don't agree with all his methods but football to academic rankings are all a result of his pushing to make Auburn a top university
This post was edited on 10/17/12 at 1:17 pm
Posted by wdeinttown
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 10/17/12 at 1:38 pm to
I don't see how running the school like your own fiefdom is bringing the university into the 21st century. He ruined a well respected economics department and his control over the office of university president led to our troubles with SACS.
Posted by AUin02
Member since Jan 2012
4280 posts
Posted on 10/17/12 at 1:48 pm to
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Explain how this guy is a cancer though.


He dismantled the journalism dept after they spoke out against him stuffing the BOT with his cronies courtesy of ole Donnie Siegelman.

He had a personal feud with another BOT, and once that man retired Bobby used his influence to move the economics dept (the other BOTs personal "baby" program if you will) under control of the business school and then cut all funding to the grad level education. The econ dept literally lacked the funding to hire a new professor for 15-20 years because of this. They also lost the grad school in the process.

His actions to put 2 of his cronies on the BOT in order to have control nearly cost AU its accreditation.

He tried to run this school like it was his own personal playground. He's done more damage than could ever be considered good. IDGAF about the football program if the school had lost its SACs accreditation. Peoples priorities are royally fricked up if they want Bobby back just so football "might" be good again.

And if all you care about is football you should have punched Scarbo in the fricking face for his stupid arse article about all the good Bobby did. Yeah all the good like ensuring 90% of the state's sports journos would be from that other school by nearly ending the journalism dept at Auburn. How do ya'll like that? How do you like having tons of negative articles in the news about AU every time something might be wrong? Who all in here bitched about the treatment of the Cam Newton stuff by the Birmingham news? Because that journalistic bias is a direct RESULT of Bobby's need for power.

Bobby thinking he had easy money in Florida in 07 was the best thing that has ever happened to this university because it cost Lowder his bank, his money, and his position on the BOT.
This post was edited on 10/17/12 at 1:50 pm
Posted by AUtigerNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 10/17/12 at 1:56 pm to
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thinking he had easy money in Florida in 07


A lot of people thought this. Crippled numerous banks including his. Maybe his fortune made him a little crazy. I still appreciate the amount of money he gave to Auburn though.

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The econ dept literally lacked the funding to hire a new professor for 15-20 years because of this. They also lost the grad school in the process.


The Econ Dept was in the College of Business. Our business school is not some push over ,if thats what you mean, and is consistenly ranked. Are you talking about our grad school with business? I dont follow you there. Also, I believe Econ is not in the CoB anymore, it is in Liberal Arts if I am not mistaken.
This post was edited on 10/17/12 at 1:57 pm
Posted by AUin02
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 10/17/12 at 2:28 pm to
Econ is not typically part of a business school. In most colleges with strong econ depts, it's considered part of Liberal Arts.

And I'm referring to having a Masters in Econ, and a PhD in Econ.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 10/17/12 at 2:46 pm to
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Econ is not typically part of a business school. In most colleges with strong econ depts, it's considered part of Liberal Arts.

And I'm referring to having a Masters in Econ, and a PhD in Econ.


I'm surprised Dr. Stern has been able to start putting a PhD program back together at Auburn.

I don't want Lowder back and sometimes may say it in jest but that doesn't mean Lowder didn't do some good things for AU. He had his hand in quite a bit of things that pulled us up into a national university versus regional
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 10/17/12 at 3:10 pm to
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Econ is not typically part of a business school. In most colleges with strong econ depts, it's considered part of Liberal Arts.

I know this is true but I find this weird. I would think the Econ dept. would be in the Business school.
Posted by AUtigerNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2011
17107 posts
Posted on 10/17/12 at 3:20 pm to
LINK

Click the link. Its considered a social science.
Posted by AUin02
Member since Jan 2012
4280 posts
Posted on 10/17/12 at 3:41 pm to
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Econ is not typically part of a business school. In most colleges with strong econ depts, it's considered part of Liberal Arts.

I know this is true but I find this weird. I would think the Econ dept. would be in the Business school.


That's because most people hear talk about Macro Econ (unemployment rate, inflation etc etc) and not talk about Micro Econ. But to quote Dr. Ault, "Macro econ is just a necessary evil, if you're not interested in micro econ then you shouldn't be in this major".
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 10/17/12 at 3:48 pm to
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Bobby Lowder was shitty in a lot of ways but he still brought this university into the 21st century. I don't agree with all his methods but football to academic rankings are all a result of his pushing to make Auburn a top university


True. I have been saying for years Bobby Lowder has done more for AU than anyone not named Pat Dye over the last 50 years. And Lowder was the one that got Dye here and threw his support behind him.

Auburn as a university and athletics department owe a huge debt of gratitude to Lowder.
Posted by wdeinttown
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2011
2976 posts
Posted on 10/17/12 at 4:52 pm to
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Dr. Ault


Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17280 posts
Posted on 10/17/12 at 9:32 pm to
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AUin02


^^^^Gets it.

It doesn't matter to me what good he may have done, or how much money he and his family gave.

The Auburn BOT was never meant for a single individual to remain a Trustee for 30 years. In fact, its bylaws were specifically designed to prevent such a thing. Lowder used his political influence to circumvent those rules, and used his longevity on the BOT to dominate AU administration for decades.

No person should have that much power at a public institution. Period.
This post was edited on 10/17/12 at 9:34 pm
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