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Posted on 5/6/15 at 7:02 pm to
Posted by Pavoloco83
Acworth Ga. too many damn dawgs
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 7:02 pm to
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I didn't have the weekly confidence in that team as I did the 2004 team


I what I loved about 2004 is that team would come out and just dominate early and often.
Posted by ellitor
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 7:11 pm to
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True but the positions I am least worried about early draftees is QB and RB.
Not concerned they go pro or not concerned because of the replacement talent in place? Staff thinks JJ going pro is a very real possibility FWIW.
Posted by Rig
BHM
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 7:12 pm to
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2004 is that team would come out and just dominate early and often.
And it frustrated the hell out of me that we stepped off the gas pedal every damn time in the 2nd half
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 7:24 pm to
The butthurt is strong wit somebody lurking the first page.

What's worse in ya'lls opinion: to go up big early, cruise through the second half and sweat it out that you'll hang on 2004 style, OR, go down early, step on the gas in the second half and sweat it out that you can score in the last minute and pull out a win 2013 style?
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 7:30 pm to
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He has worse hands than Sammie.

Sammie = brick hands with ADD
Ricardo = butterfingers
He has had what, three maybe four drops his whole career smh. I bet you cant name five times he has dropped a ball. I'll start... One, Alabama opening drive, two FSU opening drive, three Arkansas, JJs first incomplete pass...what else ya got?
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 7:50 pm to
I can't name them but I feel positive there's been more. Either way that's still not good when you only have 52 catches. Lets call it 6 career drops to be safe and fair. Hes dropping it 10% of the times the ball hits him in the hands.

He also has a problem tracking down the ball. There's been plenty of times he's been open and taken a bad angle and not gotten there, or had it go straight through his arms without actually touching it which isn't technically a drop.
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
24956 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 7:59 pm to
under thrown balls cant be held against him, and neither can balls over thrown by inches. The only reason people think he drops balls is when he does, you remember it. People rarely remember the balls Amari Cooper dropped, but he had plenty in his career, none bigger than the 2013 IB in the endzone.

I have found in sports, some players are remember for their accomplishments, and others for their mistakes. Rico and Sammie are the latter of the two. Sucks because they have made some remarkable plays in their career at Auburn.
Posted by ellitor
Member since Sep 2012
14285 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 8:01 pm to
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He has had what, three maybe four drops his whole career smh. I bet you cant name five times he has dropped a ball. I'll start... One, Alabama opening drive, two FSU opening drive, three Arkansas, JJs first incomplete pass...what else ya got?
I can't name them by name but I can tell you we had a debate about Sammie & Rico's hands after the 2013 season. That prompted me to go through the 2013 game film & results were Rico dropped 1 out of every 4 passes that were easily catchable (bad hands) while Sammie dropped 1 in 8 (surprisingly average). I feel Sammie got worse in 2014. Not sure about Rico & I'm not doing the research again as that took too long.
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Hes dropping it 10% of the times the ball hits him in the hands.
He dropped 25% in 2013. Based on today's WR performances 10% is actually about average.
This post was edited on 5/6/15 at 8:04 pm
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
24956 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 8:12 pm to
Depends on how you define "drop"

Posted by Rig
BHM
Member since Aug 2011
41856 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 8:17 pm to
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What's worse in ya'lls opinion: to go up big early, cruise through the second half and sweat it out that you'll hang on 2004 style, OR, go down early, step on the gas in the second half and sweat it out that you can score in the last minute and pull out a win 2013 style?

I look at it this way.

If we get up big early I look at who I'm with and say hey we scared them at the very least.

If we get down early I hit the bottle
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 8:22 pm to
I'm not holding under thrown or over thrown balls against. I'm talking about balls that were perfectly catchable that he just couldn't track down for whatever reason. There's been plenty and a lot of have been bad enough that if you weren't paying attention you'd think Nick threw a bad pass.

LINK

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On the other hand, Louis has had issues with drops and made high-profile mistakes tracking the deep ball over the past two seasons, costing him the No. 3 receiver role last year.
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
24956 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 8:42 pm to
Posted by ellitor
Member since Sep 2012
14285 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 8:54 pm to
quote:

Depends on how you define "drop"
I used easily catchable terms. No finger tips stuff.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 9:14 pm to
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Not concerned they go pro or not concerned because of the replacement talent in place? Staff thinks JJ going pro is a very real possibility FWIW.


I'm not concerned if they go pro because I am comfortable with the talent we have remaining. This does not mean I hope they go pro as I would love for them to stay.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 9:30 pm to
If he has a big year this season I think it'd be smart to stay for his senior year. If he starts off his senior year with the hype of one of the best returning QBs and players in college football, preseason Heisman contender, and continues to improve he could elevate himself to #1 overall pick status.

On the other hand, this feels like a weak QB class so if he can play at a high level and prove he's one of the top QBs he might be able to get a first round grade this season and there's no reason to pass that up.
Posted by ellitor
Member since Sep 2012
14285 posts
Posted on 5/8/15 at 6:53 am to
McShay's 1st 2016 Mock Draft is out. He has Duke selected #8 overall by the Rams & Carl #23 to the Ravens.
Posted by atlau
Member since Oct 2012
5264 posts
Posted on 5/8/15 at 9:07 am to
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He has Duke selected #8 overall by the Rams


Would love this.
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