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2013 LSU game vs 2014 MSU game

Posted on 10/13/14 at 12:50 am
Posted by ever43
Raleigh, NC
Member since Aug 2009
2947 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 12:50 am
Am I the only one that thinks these comparisons are ludicrous and is being done by our fans in order to give us something positive to think about for the next 2 weeks? Sure the game started out the same in terms of looking like the Keystone Cops, but that's where the similarities end IMO.
- Last year was NM's first SEC road start and he'd been on campus for about 6 weeks
- It was still early enough that we didn't know our identity
- That team had been on an emotional roller coaster for years and had no confidence
- We learned that Mason was a baller and our guys had gotten over giving up on games like 2011 and 2012.

Comparing those circumstances to where we thought this team and program was is like comparing apples to midget porn.
Posted by N97883
New Dehli Forsyth GA
Member since Nov 2013
8062 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 12:59 am to
They're not the same for all of the reasons you said.

But if this loss causes Gus to revamp the offense thus again changing our identity to suit what he has rather than what was. And then if they play Roc and figure out he is a baller and we start gashing teams with the run and Duke pass and dazzling them with Coates near catches, well then. Oh and if this Msst loss causes Auburn to continuously be flagged for PI, then they're similar.

If all of that happens, then they're similiar except we're now ranked in the top 6 vs unranked at the revamp phase.

So I agreed with you until I convinced myself otherwise. Posibarner force is strong with me.
Posted by N97883
New Dehli Forsyth GA
Member since Nov 2013
8062 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:01 am to
Seriously though, I thought Gus was the genius who figures out what he's got first and then makes an offense around it. Seems like we're trying to run last years offense without some very key players. Time to put the round peg in the round hole instead of the triangle one.
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
46182 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:22 am to
Everything said on this board is 100% serious and 100% accurate.

That being said this years MSU game was the exact same as last years LSU game.
Posted by TigerPaw1
Chattanooga, TN
Member since Apr 2011
16979 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 8:39 am to
My main concern is in the 2 years Gus has been coach we have opened our SEC play on the road by spotting the opposing team 14 points and falling behind 21-0. For some reason both times we come out incredible tight and make horrid mistakes that lead to us getting buried and early and having to play from far behind the whole game
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22365 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 8:44 am to
we are doing a lot of different things offensively than we did last year... we're using more spread formations and fewer FB/HB formations... we're throwing the ball more, even on early downs... we're using a lot more intermediate passing routes. Our issues stem from not being able to run inside... until that gets remedied, it's never going to click like it did a year ago.

As for the comparisons to 2013 LSU, there are some, but the 2014 team's ceiling isn't near what 2013 was.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 8:47 am to
quote:

fewer FB/HB formations


That's what happens when you don't have an HBack

quote:

we're throwing the ball more, even on early downs


That's what happens when you have 2 All SEC Caliber WRs (even if Sammie doesn't play like it) and don't have a All SEC RB

quote:

we're using a lot more intermediate passing routes.


Something we should have done last year

quote:

Our issues stem from not being able to run inside


Our issue stem from not being able to block for runs inside

Posted by slacker130
Your mom
Member since Jul 2010
7989 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 8:50 am to
I think our 2013 team found its identity last year during the second half of the LSU game. I think this year's team is still looking.

We are not who we were last year, we know we have talent, we don't have the chemistry yet.

I haven't watched the entire game thru again, but I did like our rhythm and our fire when Roc was running the ball. I don't know if that's the missing spark or not, but I think I'm in the Roc fan club now. Artis-Payne is underwhelming.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 8:52 am to
Roc 4 Heisman
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22365 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 8:53 am to
my post was in response to Gus molding the offense to fit his personnel and strengths... so far, I think he's doing that... we're going more wide b/c we have more talent at WR and less talent at FB/HB.

you can only mold it so much... some of the playcalling i didn't necessarily agree with on Saturday, but for the most part, even though we couldn't run inside (or outside for that matter), the offense was still put in positions to score... redzone failures, missed chipshot FG, a horrible OPI, and coates stepping out of the back of the EZ cost us at least 14 points, maybe more.
Posted by thirdlawson
Nashville
Member since Oct 2011
8614 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 8:58 am to
I think we really should run Nick Marshall more on designed runs instead of reads. CAP is solid, not explosive. Grant is explosive, not solid. I see more natural ability in Roc and Barber. They need more touches.
Posted by SmithsAuFan
San Diego, CA
Member since Jul 2013
1658 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 3:04 pm to
Only comparison that I saw was that when you spot a good team a couple of TDs then it is hard to dig out of that hole. At the end of the day though, Miss St is a good team and capitalized on mistakes.
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