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Posted on 10/29/23 at 10:02 am
Posted on 10/29/23 at 10:02 am
The fans that called me dumb for not wanting to touch Watson and for drafting Drake London. Seems like Watson is straight garbage and London is showing up and looking like a really good wr. Even with a terrible qb.
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Posted on 10/30/23 at 5:46 pm to MikkUGA
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London is showing up and looking like a really good wr
He's fine. He's not a gamebreaker though. If you're drafting a WR in the top 10, he needs to be a gamebreaker. London has probably been at best the 3rd best WR in that draft class. Taking him over Garrett Wilson looks egregiously bad.
Fontenot's drafting in general has been bad enough that I'd fire him before letting him run another one. The best pick he has made has been Tyler Allgeier in the 5th round, and the moron immediately pissed away that value by drafting another RB with a top 10 pick.
There were probably 20 players on the board who would have helped this team more than Bijan would have. The two who went right after him were Darnell Wright and Jalen Carter. Wright would have been a significant upgrade over turnstile Kaleb McGary (who they stupidly gave a contract extension to), and Carter is probably already the best interior pass rusher in the NFL halfway through his rookie season. A stud interior pass rusher is infinitely more valuable than a RB.
This post was edited on 10/30/23 at 5:49 pm
Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:38 pm to MikkUGA
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London is showing up and looking like a really good wr.
No he’s not. As said, he’s fine.
And a terrible pick
Posted on 11/2/23 at 2:59 am to VADawg
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Fontenot's drafting in general has been bad enough that I'd fire him before letting him run another one.
But then you'd be starting over, again.
And people wonder why the Falcons are what they are.
Posted on 11/2/23 at 9:00 am to SteelerBravesDawg
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But then you'd be starting over, again.
Sunk cost fallacy definition: The phenomenon whereby a person is reluctant to abandon a strategy or course of action because they have invested heavily in it, even when it is clear that abandonment would be more beneficial.
It's clear to me that Fontenot is a sunk cost. Drafting is BY FAR the most important part of a GM's job and he has been utterly abysmal in that department.
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And people wonder why the Falcons are what they are.
Three straight years of dogshit drafting following the previous GM who never met a contract extension he didn't like to give out.
Crippling salary cap problems compounded by all of the cheap talent sucking is why the Falcons are what they are. Letting this bum stack the roster with a fourth straight dogshit draft won't fix anything.
This post was edited on 11/2/23 at 9:05 am
Posted on 11/2/23 at 12:03 pm to VADawg
But yet you wanna restart, again and bring in someone else w/a different philosophy and thus, most of the players that are on the roster now will have to be jettisoned off b/c they wont fit the scheme of the new coach/GM.
You're just exacerbating the problem and thusly, are part of the problem.
You're just exacerbating the problem and thusly, are part of the problem.
This post was edited on 11/2/23 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 11/2/23 at 12:09 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
Also, Blank needs to sell the team. He has been a poor owner for a decade now and he has no idea what he's doing.
Posted on 11/2/23 at 12:35 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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But yet you wanna restart, again and bring in someone else w/a different philosophy and thus, most of the players that are on the roster now will have to be jettisoned off b/c they wont fit the scheme of the new coach/GM.
Most of them need to be jettisoned. Fontenot has had a grand total of one draft pick who has played up to his draft status, and that was 5th round steal Tyler Allgeier. Getting a starting caliber RB in the 5th round is great value, and then that value was pissed away a year later by drafting over Allgeier with a top 10 pick.
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You're just exacerbating the problem and thusly, are part of the problem.
So you actually think the right move is to let Fontenot run another draft? Three atrocious drafts aren't enough for you to see that he can't draft worth a shite?
I've seen enough to know that he sucks at drafting. Ebikete is a bust, Deangelo Malone might as well be on a milk carton, Zack Harrison is a project, and Troy Andersen's undrafted replacement is better than him. Richie Grant doesn't look like a 2nd round pick.
Pitts and London have not remotely lived up to their draft status. Drafting a RB in the top 10 is a waste of a pick no matter who it is.
Jalen Mayfield has already been cut. Matt Hennessy has already been benched and will probably be cut in the offseason. Drew Dalman gets blown up every week. Ridder has been benched.
Extending Kaleb McGary looked stupid at the time and looks even worse now. He is one of the worst pass blocking tackles I have ever seen. The offensive line is going to need to be completely rebuilt in the offseason. McGary cannot be back on this roster, and Jake Matthews has regressed badly.
Seriously. What the hell else do you need to see?
The ONLY thing Fontenot has been good at is free agency, but that is nowhere near as important as drafting ability. You build your team through the draft and fill holes in free agency.
This post was edited on 11/2/23 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 11/5/23 at 12:54 am to VADawg
Garrett Wilson has 39 catches on 68 targets for 469 yards.
Drake London has 37 catches on 57 targets for 438 yards.
Remind me again how Wilson is vastly better than London. He has 11 more targets with 2 more catches and 31 more yards.Their stats are almost identical.
Wilson is 6' 192. London 6'4 213. Either way the Falcons the year before had the worst wr core in all the nfl. Taking a top wr in the draft is not a bad pick.The reason Georgia fans got upset was they didn't take Davis. Well why would you do that with the guys you already had at that position. That would have been a dumb pick. London was not. Those same people thought Robinson was a dumb pick. I just think they don't know much about the sport.
Drake London has 37 catches on 57 targets for 438 yards.
Remind me again how Wilson is vastly better than London. He has 11 more targets with 2 more catches and 31 more yards.Their stats are almost identical.
Wilson is 6' 192. London 6'4 213. Either way the Falcons the year before had the worst wr core in all the nfl. Taking a top wr in the draft is not a bad pick.The reason Georgia fans got upset was they didn't take Davis. Well why would you do that with the guys you already had at that position. That would have been a dumb pick. London was not. Those same people thought Robinson was a dumb pick. I just think they don't know much about the sport.
Posted on 11/5/23 at 12:01 am to VADawg
London and Pitts haven't lived up to their status while Wilson has? Pitts has been injured a lot but both of these guys don't play QB and Ridder is fricking terrible. The last two years qb pool at their pick has not been worth a shot. They have to try and get a qb in the next draft because it's loaded with qb talent. They should have drafted someone else in round 3 that year.
This post was edited on 11/5/23 at 12:07 am
Posted on 11/5/23 at 12:34 am to MikkUGA
Really in the 22 draft I would have went skill position. In hindsight even at the time I liked London, Wilson and Olave. So any of the 3 would have been fine but I'm still taking a wr there. In the second round I would have went Georgia and taken Pickens and Cook. Either way they did a good job building g the defense in the off-season. As far as rbs go. You need atleast 2 or 3 sharing carries. To say you don't take 1 in round 1 is wrong. A running game and good backs are very important. You draft for need.
Posted on 11/5/23 at 12:22 pm to MikkUGA
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To say you don't take 1 in round 1 is wrong
Who was the last team to win anything of significance with a 1st round RB? Go ahead, I'll wait. As good as Barkley is, he hasn't made a damn bit of difference in the Giants W-L record. Taking him at #2 overall was astronomically stupid. This is real life, not fantasy football. Ezekiel Elliott had a 1600 yard rookie season. You know who else did the same thing for Dallas? DeMarco Murray, two years before that. That's because their offensive line was the best in football, not because of the RBs.
Kansas City drafted CEH in the first round and then had him as a healthy scratch while 7th round Isiah Pacheco and former Georgia Southern QB Jerick McKinnon carried the load at RB. Taking a RB in the 1st round is stupid and a ridiculous waste of resources.
NFL running games are entirely dependent on OL play and offensive scheme and have very little to do with the runner himself. The Falcons had one of their best running games this season against Tampa Bay, and Robinson had a total of 1 carry for 3 yards in that game.
Robinson is fun to watch, but he really hasn't made much of a difference in the team's record this season. RBs are a dime a dozen. That's why they're having problems getting second contracts.
If you take a skill player in the top 10, he needs to be a game changer. London isn't that. Also, Garrett Wilson has had even worse QB play than Pitts and London have and he's still better. Wilson is explosive and is a threat to score anytime he touches the ball. London is a threat to gain 12 yards.
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You draft for need.
Smart teams draft for talent and use free agency to fill holes.
This post was edited on 11/5/23 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 11/5/23 at 12:25 pm to MikkUGA
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The reason Georgia fans got upset was they didn't take Davis. Well why would you do that with the guys you already had at that position.
Who did they have at the position? Grady Jarrett is good, but he's more of an undersized interior pass rusher. The defensive line sucked at that time and would still benefit from having Davis around to shut down opposing run games.
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I just think they don't know much about the sport.
This is how I feel about anyone who thinks taking a RB in the top 10 was a good pick. Smart teams don't waste resources like this. The Falcons run game in their Super Bowl year consisted of Tevin Coleman and Devonta Freeman. Those were 3rd and 4th round picks.
When the Rams made their Super Bowl run in 2018, Todd Gurley was on the bench with injured knees. They signed CJ Anderson off the street and did not skip a beat in production.
This post was edited on 11/5/23 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 11/5/23 at 3:32 pm to VADawg
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Smart teams don't waste resources like this.
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