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As of 5-30-17, what is your ideal Braves 25 man roster, rotation, lineup and pen setup?
Posted on 5/30/17 at 8:45 am
Posted on 5/30/17 at 8:45 am
I'll start
Lineup
1. Inciarte, CF
2. Swanson, SS (.356 OBP in May)
3. Markakis, RF
4. Kemp, LF
5. Adams, 1B
6. Flowers, C
7. Phillips, 2B (.318 OBP in May)
8. Ruiz, 3B vs R / Garcia, 3B vs L
Bench
Suzuki, C (R)
Peterson, UTL (L)
Santana, UTL (S)
Garcia (R) / Ruiz (L) , 3B
Adams, OF (R)
Rotation
1. Teheran (R)
2. Garcia (L)
3. Foltynewicz (R)
4. Sims (R)
5. Newcomb (L)
Bullpen
Closer - Vizcaino (R)
Setup - Johnson (R)
Middle - Ramirez (R)
Middle - Cabrera (R)
Middle - Freeman (L)
Middle - Krol (L)
Long - Jackson (R)
- DFA Bonifacio
- DFA Colon (or DL him and try him in long relief)
- Trade Dickey (eat some salary, could find willing partner)
- leave EOF in AAA when he comes back from DL
- either try and trade Motte or send him to AAA (his performance has been solid so far, but he also has an FIP of 4.36, so, strike while the iron is hot)
I'm shaky about Krol, but you really want a couple lefties out there. The scary thing is Krol is just as bad as he's actually been. His BABIP against is .220, so he's not been unlucky. His FIP is 6.55 (his ERA is 6.63). Gross.
I'm also shaky about Newcomb. He's pitched well in Gwinnett (2.96 ERA, 3.27 FIP, 11.7 K/9 all with a .307 BABIP against). However, he's only gone more than 5+ innings 2 times in his last 10 starts. I'd really prefer to see him put together a string of 6-7 IP starts before he comes up. Until Dickey's last start I'd have said to hold off, but it's time to move on there.
Finally, I love Jace, but I'm slowly moving towards the Comargo > Jace position. I could be convinced that Comargo should replace Santana and Jace stays too as the super utility guy, but I think Comargo is better defensively and has a higher upside bench bat (plus Jace's bat has been pretty awful this season and at best average overall).
Lineup
1. Inciarte, CF
2. Swanson, SS (.356 OBP in May)
3. Markakis, RF
4. Kemp, LF
5. Adams, 1B
6. Flowers, C
7. Phillips, 2B (.318 OBP in May)
8. Ruiz, 3B vs R / Garcia, 3B vs L
Bench
Suzuki, C (R)
Peterson, UTL (L)
Santana, UTL (S)
Garcia (R) / Ruiz (L) , 3B
Adams, OF (R)
Rotation
1. Teheran (R)
2. Garcia (L)
3. Foltynewicz (R)
4. Sims (R)
5. Newcomb (L)
Bullpen
Closer - Vizcaino (R)
Setup - Johnson (R)
Middle - Ramirez (R)
Middle - Cabrera (R)
Middle - Freeman (L)
Middle - Krol (L)
Long - Jackson (R)
- DFA Bonifacio
- DFA Colon (or DL him and try him in long relief)
- Trade Dickey (eat some salary, could find willing partner)
- leave EOF in AAA when he comes back from DL
- either try and trade Motte or send him to AAA (his performance has been solid so far, but he also has an FIP of 4.36, so, strike while the iron is hot)
I'm shaky about Krol, but you really want a couple lefties out there. The scary thing is Krol is just as bad as he's actually been. His BABIP against is .220, so he's not been unlucky. His FIP is 6.55 (his ERA is 6.63). Gross.
I'm also shaky about Newcomb. He's pitched well in Gwinnett (2.96 ERA, 3.27 FIP, 11.7 K/9 all with a .307 BABIP against). However, he's only gone more than 5+ innings 2 times in his last 10 starts. I'd really prefer to see him put together a string of 6-7 IP starts before he comes up. Until Dickey's last start I'd have said to hold off, but it's time to move on there.
Finally, I love Jace, but I'm slowly moving towards the Comargo > Jace position. I could be convinced that Comargo should replace Santana and Jace stays too as the super utility guy, but I think Comargo is better defensively and has a higher upside bench bat (plus Jace's bat has been pretty awful this season and at best average overall).
This post was edited on 5/30/17 at 9:25 am
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Posted on 5/30/17 at 9:26 am to SummerOfGeorge
A few wildcards going forward due to current injuries : Dustin Peterson & Micah Johnson. Johnson could surpass both Jace and Camargo and Peterson will take Adams spot if he reverts to 2016 form once he gets his sea legs in Gwinnett post-injury.
Posted on 5/30/17 at 11:05 am to SummerOfGeorge
I like your lineup, bench, and rotation. I'm not sure there is anything else that can really be done in those areas with what we have in the minors. My fear is that Medlen will do will after his AA call up and be the first guy up once Colon ultimately fails.
I'd like to see Akeel Morris get a call up and fill one of the bullpen slots. I'd cut ties with Colon, move Dickey to the role of long relief and trade Johnson.
My pen would be:
Closer - Viz
Setup - Ramirez
7th - Motte
Mid - Morris
Mid - Jackson
Lefty - Krol or Freeman
Long - Dickey
Although, with Sims, Newcomb, and Folty in the rotation at the same time, I'm thinking the 8 man pen will be necessary. Keep Krol and Freeman in the pen and have a 4 man bench of Catcher, Jace, Camargo, Garcia. I can't remember how much time Garcia got in the outfield when he was sent down, but I would hope that he and Jace could fill in if needed and a move can be made to bring up Lane or Santana if a significant need arises.
Edit - Originally had Cabrera in the 7th Inning spot but forgot about Jason Motte. I like the way he has been pitching and Cabrera might be a little too wild for an important role in the BP.
I'd like to see Akeel Morris get a call up and fill one of the bullpen slots. I'd cut ties with Colon, move Dickey to the role of long relief and trade Johnson.
My pen would be:
Closer - Viz
Setup - Ramirez
7th - Motte
Mid - Morris
Mid - Jackson
Lefty - Krol or Freeman
Long - Dickey
Although, with Sims, Newcomb, and Folty in the rotation at the same time, I'm thinking the 8 man pen will be necessary. Keep Krol and Freeman in the pen and have a 4 man bench of Catcher, Jace, Camargo, Garcia. I can't remember how much time Garcia got in the outfield when he was sent down, but I would hope that he and Jace could fill in if needed and a move can be made to bring up Lane or Santana if a significant need arises.
Edit - Originally had Cabrera in the 7th Inning spot but forgot about Jason Motte. I like the way he has been pitching and Cabrera might be a little too wild for an important role in the BP.
This post was edited on 5/30/17 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 5/30/17 at 12:19 pm to VinegarStrokes
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I'd like to see Akeel Morris get a call up and fill one of the bullpen slots
Yep, me too. He's been electric in AA and AAA since we got him. His advanced numbers are great, too.
The bullpen is actually starting to finally gel together and become a strength. And, on top of that, we have a multitude of arms very close to ready for the Show. Minter going down sucks because he'd be in a perfect spot to bump Krol.
- Akeel Morris (AAA) (11.4 K/9, 14.9% K-BB%, .224 Avg Against, 2.40 ERA, 2.56 FIP)
- Caleb Dirks (AAA) (10.7 K/9, 21.6% K-BB%, .188 Avg Against, 2.93 ERA, 3.40 FIP)
- David Peterson (AAA) (7.7 K/9, 15.5% K-BB%, .253 Avg Against, 2.70 ERA, 2.91 FIP)
- AJ Minter (Injured) (2016 AA Stats) (15.0 K/9, 32.9% K-BB%, .186 Avg Against, 2.41 ERA, 0.96 FIP)
Best part about Morris and Dirks is that they have very high K rates but also have solid control. Bullpen guys who can get K's and don't walk people are golden tickets.
Then you add in Hursh, Medlen, whatever Rex Brothers might dave left. All those guys should be ready by the 2nd half of this year to fill roles if you can get some value for Johnson, Motte, etc. Plus the guys who won't be in the rotation but could have value out of the pen (Sims, Wisler, Blair).
This post was edited on 5/30/17 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 5/30/17 at 7:58 pm to SummerOfGeorge
To your point about Camargo > Jace, I agree. But I think what holds that back is that Jace can play INF and OF. Pretty sure Camargo is INF only. But man, I like seeing Camargo in the field. That right arm of his is a rocket launcher.
Posted on 5/30/17 at 8:42 pm to SummerOfGeorge
On 5/31, I wouldnt change much other than having Camargo on the bench instead of Bonafacio, and swapping Krol for Rex Brothers.
Now lets fast forward to 7/1 or 8/1
C:Tyler Flowers
1B:Matt Adams
2B:Johan Camargo
3B:Rio Ruiz
SS:Dansby Swanson
LF:Matt Kemp
CF:Ender Inciarte
RF:Nick Markakis
C:Kurt Suzuki
INF:Adonis Garcia
INF/OF:Jace Peterson
OF:Lane Adams
SP:Julio Teheran
SP:Mike Foltynewicz
SP:Lucas Sims
SP:Sean Newcomb
SP:RA Dickey/Matt Wisler(insert prospect 9/1)
CP:Jim Johnson
SU:Mauricio Cabrera
RP:Arodyz Vizcaino
RP:Jose Ramirez
RP:Akeel Morris
RP:Rex Brothers
RP:Luke Jackson
RP:Sam Freeman
-Brandon Phillips, Jaime Garcia both traded
-Bartolo Colon, Danny Santana, Emilio Bonafacio released
-Jason Motte, and Ian Krol released or traded
Now lets fast forward to 7/1 or 8/1
C:Tyler Flowers
1B:Matt Adams
2B:Johan Camargo
3B:Rio Ruiz
SS:Dansby Swanson
LF:Matt Kemp
CF:Ender Inciarte
RF:Nick Markakis
C:Kurt Suzuki
INF:Adonis Garcia
INF/OF:Jace Peterson
OF:Lane Adams
SP:Julio Teheran
SP:Mike Foltynewicz
SP:Lucas Sims
SP:Sean Newcomb
SP:RA Dickey/Matt Wisler(insert prospect 9/1)
CP:Jim Johnson
SU:Mauricio Cabrera
RP:Arodyz Vizcaino
RP:Jose Ramirez
RP:Akeel Morris
RP:Rex Brothers
RP:Luke Jackson
RP:Sam Freeman
-Brandon Phillips, Jaime Garcia both traded
-Bartolo Colon, Danny Santana, Emilio Bonafacio released
-Jason Motte, and Ian Krol released or traded
Posted on 5/30/17 at 10:14 pm to SummerOfGeorge
The way this 3rd inning is going I'd say just cut everybody, burn down the stadium and let the Rome Braves take over.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 7:18 am to SumterCoDawg
Literally as bad a half inning as I can ever remember watching.
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