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Who We Can Realistically Get After Fatass Gets Fired Next Year
Posted on 12/30/16 at 10:22 pm
Posted on 12/30/16 at 10:22 pm
It's clear bert won't survive much longer..
Off the top of my head:
#1 Gundy
#2 PJ Fleck
#3 Jeff Brohm (my personal dark horse favorite)
#4 Kiffin
#5 Bohl
Not necessarily my personal top 5 but I think it's who we could actually hire
Off the top of my head:
#1 Gundy
#2 PJ Fleck
#3 Jeff Brohm (my personal dark horse favorite)
#4 Kiffin
#5 Bohl
Not necessarily my personal top 5 but I think it's who we could actually hire
This post was edited on 12/30/16 at 10:42 pm
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Posted on 12/30/16 at 10:38 pm to Jack Ruby
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This post was edited on 12/30/16 at 10:40 pm
Posted on 12/30/16 at 11:05 pm to Jack Ruby
Gundy or Brohm with a great Dc would be nice
Posted on 12/30/16 at 11:11 pm to Jack Ruby
It's not "who can we get after him?" It's "can this guy get the job done?" The answer to the second question is obviously no. There was no larger indication, on both sides, that we are awfully coached than this orange bowl I just watched. Michigan didn't score offensively until the fourth Q. They didn't hang their heads and pout like we do. They fought and took the lead. FSU didn't hang their heads and pout after a huge momentum swing. They returned a punt a long way, and then got a jump ball on third down to take the lead. The extra point got blocked and returned, oh well? They stepped up and got a stop to win. Both teams believe in their coach and played hard while our team folds (and always has under BB) at the first sign of adversity.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 11:38 pm to Jack Ruby
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Off the top of my head:
#1 Gundy
#2 PJ Fleck
#3 Jeff Brohm (my personal dark horse favorite)
#4 Kiffin
#5 Bohl
Not necessarily my personal top 5 but I think it's who we could actually hire
I would possibly add Larry Fedora to the list. He's done decently at North Carolina and could probably do better in Fayetteville. His salary there is 3.2 million, so he'd probably have to get a big pay bump to jump.
Another name that may have established himself in a few years is Scott Frost. His first year at UCF he went 6-7, and he's been a big part of major big-time programs and offensive success. Pair him with a stud DC and I think he would do well here.
Another name that probably isn't trending with people is Charlie Strong. In 2-3 years when Bert's buyout gets low enough, Charlie Strong may have re-established himself at South Florida. While he wasn't great at Texas, there honestly wasn't much talent on that roster, star power aside. It seems like the recruiting services just gave those players high star ratings because Texas got them. Similar things started to happen at Miami towards the end of the Coker tenure. Clearly something was wrong at Texas. It doesn't make sense that a coach can succeed at Louisville but not Texas.
Good list with the exception of Kiffin. Even apart from Kiffin's terrible tenures at previous stops, something clearly rubs me the wrong way about him. He's non-stop drama wherever he goes (partially because of his previous antics and famous last name), and the fact that he wasn't able to get anything better than FAU this year would worry me. Include the fact that Kiffin was dying to leave that he was willing to take the FAU job just to "stop getting his arse chewed" by Saban is proof that I'm not sure that he's what I want. No one is saying Saban is the nicest boss, but to be a big time college football head coach, you have to have thick skin. Fans, boosters, players, administrators, ESPN, etc. will always talk shite. You just have to be able to tune it out.
This post was edited on 12/30/16 at 11:47 pm
Posted on 12/30/16 at 11:56 pm to DiafGtfo
No offense but I doubt Strong would be any different than Bielema. A defense first guy isn't going to win big here.
Posted on 12/31/16 at 12:16 am to Jack Ruby
I'm back on the Bielema train. Austin Allen will get his favorite receivers picked quickly and will lean on the tight end like always. Our O-line got it's wake-up call. It will be all business this summer. No photoshoots for these guys. Our backfield will do what it does. The main focus til September will be installing and perfecting the 3-4. That means slamming linebacker pressure into Austin Allen til he dies or figures it out. He's a second year quarterback. He needs to put his big boy pants on. 2014 was defense defense defense. It will be the same next year. Bookmark this cuz you heard it here first. 10 wins.
Posted on 12/31/16 at 12:26 am to TheCheshireHog
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No offense but I doubt Strong would be any different than Bielema. A defense first guy isn't going to win big here.
I agree that it needs to be an offensive guy, but that excuse for Bielema is bad. Would a defensive coach (I know BB is one) have handcuffed us from a decent season this year? Well I guess it's possible. Any coach in America would have had a great season by our standards in '14. Most coaches would have had a good season in '15.
This post was edited on 12/31/16 at 2:35 am
Posted on 12/31/16 at 11:17 am to hogNsinceReagan
Buddy if this wasnt beilamas mindset after last year it's not gonna change this off-season. He's been here 4 years and he is what he is.
This post was edited on 12/31/16 at 11:18 am
Posted on 12/31/16 at 12:05 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
I definitely won't be pushing the narrative.
Posted on 12/31/16 at 12:45 pm to Jack Ruby
Probably just need to say frick it and hire a guy with Texas and Oklahoma ties who runs that style of offense. Maybe he can put together a defensive staff that will slow down sec teams, maybe we can steal enough recruits from okie light, Baylor, Tcu, SMU Texas tech, Houston, and mizzou to be competitive.
Posted on 12/31/16 at 12:50 pm to DaleDenton
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Probably just need to say frick it and hire a guy with Texas and Oklahoma ties who runs that style of offense. Maybe he can put together a defensive staff that will slow down sec teams, maybe we can steal enough recruits from okie light, Baylor, Tcu, SMU Texas tech, Houston, and mizzou to be competitive.
This right fricking here^^^^^. Hell we already produce the qbs
Posted on 12/31/16 at 12:56 pm to DaleDenton
It's definitely what I would like to see us do with the next hire.
Posted on 12/31/16 at 3:37 pm to TheCheshireHog
Dale, is correct in his (what I took to be ironic and factious post)... After Tx, TAMU, TT, Houston, OK, OK State, TCU, Baylor, and everyone else who raids TX/OK with higher cachet... what will we have left to actually compete?
Posted on 12/31/16 at 3:52 pm to Razorback Reverend
If we're getting beat out for recruits by ttech, houston, Baylor, Tcu, and OK state we need to get whoever the coach is at Arkansas the frick out of there. Because no way should we ever get consistently beat out for recruits by those teams
Posted on 12/31/16 at 4:03 pm to Razorback Reverend
We could compete better for Texas recruits than we can for the SE recruits we are being beat out for now so I don't understand Dale's reluctance to get back into the SW
Posted on 12/31/16 at 4:42 pm to Razorback Reverend
This is not an attack on Rev, but TCU, TT, Houston, and Baylor should never be considered more prestigious FB programs than Arkansas. Neither frankly should TAMU or OkLight. Perhaps the SEC move killed us; I often wonder if that isn't the truth, because we need Texas recruits to win and used to get enough to do that.
The irony here is that I live in Texas, and the fans of the above listed programs that I know remember us from the old SWC days and hold is in higher regard than we hold ourselves. Even the TAMU fans can't believe that we have allowed ourselves to slip like this.
So when I read this and other sites, I wonder if Arkansas hasn't jumped the shark. We seem to see ourselves more like Mizzou than Auburn or LSU, and it seems to be ok. We pump up the SEC brand yet win nothing for ourselves.
I remember when that kind of performance would have never been ok for the Hogs.
The complacency and " I might as well bite the pillow and accept it" mentality that many now have is tremendously exasperating and sad. Very sad.
Again Rev, this is not an attack on you at all. So please don't take offense; my apologies for the emotional hijack.
The irony here is that I live in Texas, and the fans of the above listed programs that I know remember us from the old SWC days and hold is in higher regard than we hold ourselves. Even the TAMU fans can't believe that we have allowed ourselves to slip like this.
So when I read this and other sites, I wonder if Arkansas hasn't jumped the shark. We seem to see ourselves more like Mizzou than Auburn or LSU, and it seems to be ok. We pump up the SEC brand yet win nothing for ourselves.
I remember when that kind of performance would have never been ok for the Hogs.
The complacency and " I might as well bite the pillow and accept it" mentality that many now have is tremendously exasperating and sad. Very sad.
Again Rev, this is not an attack on you at all. So please don't take offense; my apologies for the emotional hijack.
Posted on 12/31/16 at 4:51 pm to DocHog
ohhh, I totally agree Doc, but that is the problem. Most of those programs have had much better traditions/seasons than us the fast several years. And they are in closer areas to TX for the most part. We are in the SEC with prestigious programs much better than our own It is what it is..
Sucks, but it is our way of life for now... Money Speaks. and we are in this for the Money not wins. imho!
Posted on 12/31/16 at 5:07 pm to Razorback Reverend
You can't even say we're like Missouri. We're in a league of our own. How many pro teams does Missouri have where they don't even have to give a shite what the Tiger football team is doing? They had to get rid of one! All that goes beyond football to. I doubt there is another team in the SEC that can make so much money off doing so little.
Posted on 12/31/16 at 5:16 pm to hogNsinceReagan
Seems like a false choice: either take money or wins.
Other programs parlay wins into huge donations and amped up university prestige.
We take the SEC money so we can play the part of the "scrappy underdog." '
The folks choosing this path should be ashamed.
Other programs parlay wins into huge donations and amped up university prestige.
We take the SEC money so we can play the part of the "scrappy underdog." '
The folks choosing this path should be ashamed.
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