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What’s going on with Arkansas media today?

Posted on 8/18/20 at 8:54 pm
Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Posted on 8/18/20 at 8:54 pm
I keep seeing references of the media fighting. Can someone give the Cliffs Notes of what is happening please?
Posted by Razorback Reverend
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Posted on 8/18/20 at 9:53 pm to
Where, I want to see? Don't leave me hanging brah!

Posted by Razorback Reverend
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Posted on 8/18/20 at 9:55 pm to

Scott Faldon
@ScottFaldon
Watching those NWA sports radio guys feud on here got me thinking about how many of them got started thanks to Marty Houston and Bill Pharis. They don’t get the credit they deserve in the Arkansas media landscape.
Posted by Raz4back
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Posted on 8/18/20 at 10:07 pm to
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I keep seeing references of the media fighting. Can someone give the Cliffs Notes of what is happening please?



JB tweeted the Isaiah Joe would have no legacy at the UofA and it went from there
This post was edited on 8/18/20 at 10:08 pm
Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Posted on 8/18/20 at 10:07 pm to
Best I can tell is that it has to do with Josh Bertaccini.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
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Posted on 8/18/20 at 10:12 pm to
Well he's right. Love Joe but what kind of legacy is zero NCAAt appearances and an injured disappointing year 2 then leaves? None.

Portis and Gafford >>>
This post was edited on 8/18/20 at 10:16 pm
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 8/18/20 at 10:35 pm to
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Josh Bertaccini


I have no idea who this is, but I'm going to guess he's not from the state?
Posted by pioneerbasketball
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Posted on 8/18/20 at 10:52 pm to
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Today’s social media lesson: Adults: “legacies are defined by big plays that win big games”

Kids: “legacies are defined by volume threes in meaningless games

Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 8/18/20 at 10:57 pm to
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Well he's right. Love Joe but what kind of legacy is zero NCAAt appearances and an injured disappointing year 2 then leaves? None.



I mean I would like to see the context because it just comes off as shitty and trying to stir the pot in a vacuum
Posted by hilltophog
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 8/19/20 at 2:50 am to
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I mean I would like to see the context because it just comes off as shitty and trying to stir the pot in a vacuum


context --- here is the quote by JB that started all of this:

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Muss has to be a politician, but did Isaiah Joe really leave any kind of a "legacy" at Arkansas? Obviously not.

Zero reason to even debate whether or not Joe left a legacy at this moment especially in context to Muss's statement. Muss didn't say Joe was a legend or Razorback HOF but he was giving him credit for being a great Razorback who created a legacy of being a pretty good shooter. Muss didn't say he was legendary or had a legendary career. Joe's legacy is this:



Just like Qualls legacy was being an excellent dunker. Nothing HOF worthy - no real success in terms of championships or deep runs into the tourney but a good player with a small legacy. With that being said.... it was just a shitty hot take. What took it over the top was JB's little lackey arguing with anyone who would dare besmirch the honor of his boss. It mainly involved Tye Richardson and Pinto but somehow John Nabors got dragged into the argument and then a whole mess of Razorback twitter fans got involved.

Somebody brought up JB's professor ratings (had no clue he taught) and there were some petty and personal shots taken by both sides. Overall stupid drama but funny seeing our shitty media fight to see who is on top of the dung pile.

Hopefully the virus has helped ADs realize that the media is not needed at games to do their jobs. Maybe this will result in the removal of the press box and post game in person interviews. No more free tickets. No more comp meals. Just send the media a ZOOM link and a stats page and let them do their job from the office or home.

The melt from wally hall would be worth shutting the media out from going to games.

ADD: Some idiot compared Isaiah Joe to Joe Johnson and stated that "most Razorback fans don't remember Joe Johnson..." and that neither created a legacy. Seriously? every Razorback fan knows who Iso Joe is and we take pride in the fact that he is a Razorback. Hell, Bev spent limited time as a Razorback and we still claim him.
This post was edited on 8/19/20 at 6:19 am
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 8/19/20 at 9:09 pm to
Jo3 left a great legacy here and probably should end up in the razorback HOF eventually he's got records, how could he not end up in there. his records aren't easy ones to break either as you see by the company on the above list.

Sure he spent two years here we didn't make it anywhere but that doesn't change he's a great razorback and there is no reason to start drama and talk shite. Jo3 was super classy too unlike the press unfortunately.
Posted by WonderWartHawg
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:03 pm to
My thoughts only... I can't consider someone who was only there two years as being able to leave a 'legacy'. I guess my definition of the word entails more.
Moncrief? Legacy.
Joe? One great year, otherwise - not so much.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:32 pm to
My definition of a legacy is someone has been involved with big moments in history. The triplets, Joe Klein, Lee, Mayberry, Miller, Corliss and Scotty.

These players will always be remembered for being involved in big games, not stats which are meant to be broken.

Joe is a good player but he won't remembered for being involved with great moments in razorback history. Like many good players, they come and go and some are remembered more than others.

He had a chance to stick around and make a true legacy by getting Arkansas back to the sweet sixteen in over 20 years. But that isn't going to happen and I have a feeling he might regret that decision later in life.
Posted by GoldenSombrero
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/20/20 at 9:45 am to
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Jo3 left a great legacy here and probably should end up in the razorback HOF eventually he's got records, how could he not end up in there. his records aren't easy ones to break either as you see by the company on the above list.


Hypothetical. But had Rotnei not transferred and broke Scotty's 3 record...would you think he left any legacy? Here we are less than 10 years since he was here and I don't remember anything about his time here.

That's not a slight to him or Joe. But individual records that aren't backed by any significant moments or wins will be forgotten about.
Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 8/20/20 at 10:29 am to
I remember when he had like 51 points in a game once lol
Posted by hilltophog
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Sep 2016
1619 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 2:01 am to
Also pretty telling that JB would tag Isaiah Joe in a much more fluffy tweet vs. the initial one:

Posted by Buck Magnum
Springdale
Member since Dec 2003
11615 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 4:07 am to
Bring back Bo Mattingly. I miss call in Monday after football games.
Posted by hilltophog
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Sep 2016
1619 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 7:08 am to
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Bo Mattingly

Bo Mattingly = Bielema

every other radio show = Morris

Everybody was celebrating Bo leaving radio but what we were left with is much much worse than he ever was. Bo isn't a great media member but he at least had entertaining moments and has some high quality guests. I think he found his niche working with/for the Razorbacks and operating the Hog Pod podcast.
Posted by whataboar
Little Rock, Ark.
Member since Sep 2009
479 posts
Posted on 8/23/20 at 1:48 pm to
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Hell, Bev spent limited time as a Razorback and we still claim him.


Hell yeah we claim him -- and he absolutely claims Arkansas.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21328 posts
Posted on 8/23/20 at 3:53 pm to
I only remember Rotnei shooting a lot of threes but I don't remember him being part of anything special. No big seasons, no NCAA tournament appearances. Stats are nice to look at but it means nothing if you don't win.
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