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We should move to the Big 12. It's time.
Posted on 10/8/16 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 10/8/16 at 7:09 pm
SEC is too good, and the geography in the Big 12 makes more sense.
Posted on 10/8/16 at 7:22 pm to Stonehog
It would be less exciting, and less interesting, but I agree. What's the point of putting yourself in a perpetual disadvantage to where you need the star to align perfectly once every 25 years just for a CHANCE to HOPEFULLY win your conference, and even that requires luck. What's the fricking point!?
Posted on 10/8/16 at 7:25 pm to Jon Ham
one answer for you....
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
It is Always and Only about the Bucks...
We will always be this in the SEC, Money in the bank, but not competing for anything special.
Business Model period.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
It is Always and Only about the Bucks...
We will always be this in the SEC, Money in the bank, but not competing for anything special.
Business Model period.
Posted on 10/8/16 at 7:27 pm to Razorback Reverend
frick THAT
We're a Big 12 talent school trying to compete with NFL Light.
When I get old I'm not going to tell my grandchildren about all the great money Arkansas made in the SEC. My grandchilden won't give a frick about Arkansa football if we're just a perpetual doormat for the NFL Light blue bloods of the SEC.
We're a Big 12 talent school trying to compete with NFL Light.
When I get old I'm not going to tell my grandchildren about all the great money Arkansas made in the SEC. My grandchilden won't give a frick about Arkansa football if we're just a perpetual doormat for the NFL Light blue bloods of the SEC.
Posted on 10/8/16 at 7:32 pm to Razorback Reverend
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We will always be this in the SEC, Money in the bank, but not competing for anything special.
Great for the people making money, shitty for the fans and millions of people who support the team.
Posted on 10/8/16 at 7:46 pm to Jon Ham
Meh, more sports than football.
I'd much rather be in the SEC for basketball and baseball.
I'd much rather be in the SEC for basketball and baseball.
Posted on 10/8/16 at 7:50 pm to Razorback Reverend
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one answer for you....
$$$
Which is why I'll never contribute another dime to this program.
Posted on 10/8/16 at 8:21 pm to Stonehog
We could be in the running every year for a b12 title
Posted on 10/8/16 at 8:33 pm to The Sultan of Swine
We need a rockstar recruiter here but we won't pay to get him.
Posted on 10/8/16 at 8:35 pm to boogiewoogie1978
We probably could recruit Texas better in the b12 too
Posted on 10/9/16 at 8:22 am to Stonehog
If the SEC keeps screwing LSU you might get a travel partner.
Posted on 10/9/16 at 8:24 am to boogiewoogie1978
Agreed.
Arkansas doesn't have a lot of in-state, elite talent. If y'all could get a guy to raid Dallas, you'd be fine.
Or you could do the Ole Miss method and pay everyone?
Arkansas doesn't have a lot of in-state, elite talent. If y'all could get a guy to raid Dallas, you'd be fine.
Or you could do the Ole Miss method and pay everyone?
This post was edited on 10/9/16 at 8:25 am
Posted on 10/9/16 at 8:41 am to Tornado Alley
No. SEC West could level out in the next couple years. LSU could be Tennessee after firing Fulmer....Ole Miss could get sanction hammers dropped on them...Miss St looks like they have already regressed into a cellar dwellar and if Saban retires or moves to the NFL Bama could decline.
Also we could do very well in the Big XII with our teams now but we would decline if we moved so we'd be middle of the road again.
The real issue is lack of recruiting. At some point we have to get an all star recruiter on our staff. Petrino could win with schemes, Bert obviously can't.
Also we could do very well in the Big XII with our teams now but we would decline if we moved so we'd be middle of the road again.
The real issue is lack of recruiting. At some point we have to get an all star recruiter on our staff. Petrino could win with schemes, Bert obviously can't.
Posted on 10/9/16 at 9:17 am to TejasPete
Things will work out in time.
The honest truth is that Texas really did cut yall off from Texas recruiting by refusing to play yall way back when, and today you aren't even on the mental map of Texas recruits. I wish I could say the Southwest Classic is undoing that local brand damage, but A&M isn't important enough, the game is too early, and Arky hasn't had a lot of success in that game recently.
It will all work out in the long run. The LHN contract goes through 2030 and Texas doesn't seem like they want to get rid of it before then. By 2030 the recruits of that day will have lived their entire lives in a world where the State of Texas is part of the SEC and where the SEC is the most relevant conference in that state. Sometime in the next decade it should be easier for both A&M and Arky to recruit kids that otherwise would have gone to Big 12 teams, and if LSU screws up their next hire (very likely given their piss poor AD) then that script could flip even sooner.
Losing to a Bama sucks today but it is that Bama brand that is smothering Texas and OU in the state and making it easier for all SEC teams to recruit well down the road. If OU decides to break away from the Big 12 (and give up the Texas rivalry game in the process) then things could change ever faster. OU in the SEC would build up both Arky (who gets a regional rival) and A&M (who gets to take over the RRR as the big game in Texas OU needs for recruiting). At that point Texas's three major rivals will all be attacking the brand and appeal of their program, and together I am pretty sure we can turn them into a Nebraska (especially if they go to the PAC or B1G like I expect).
Point being just because its bad now because a GOAT coach is in the division doesn't mean it will alway be. Letting A&M in the SEC was the break the Arky program needed, and patience will reap large rewards for us all.
The honest truth is that Texas really did cut yall off from Texas recruiting by refusing to play yall way back when, and today you aren't even on the mental map of Texas recruits. I wish I could say the Southwest Classic is undoing that local brand damage, but A&M isn't important enough, the game is too early, and Arky hasn't had a lot of success in that game recently.
It will all work out in the long run. The LHN contract goes through 2030 and Texas doesn't seem like they want to get rid of it before then. By 2030 the recruits of that day will have lived their entire lives in a world where the State of Texas is part of the SEC and where the SEC is the most relevant conference in that state. Sometime in the next decade it should be easier for both A&M and Arky to recruit kids that otherwise would have gone to Big 12 teams, and if LSU screws up their next hire (very likely given their piss poor AD) then that script could flip even sooner.
Losing to a Bama sucks today but it is that Bama brand that is smothering Texas and OU in the state and making it easier for all SEC teams to recruit well down the road. If OU decides to break away from the Big 12 (and give up the Texas rivalry game in the process) then things could change ever faster. OU in the SEC would build up both Arky (who gets a regional rival) and A&M (who gets to take over the RRR as the big game in Texas OU needs for recruiting). At that point Texas's three major rivals will all be attacking the brand and appeal of their program, and together I am pretty sure we can turn them into a Nebraska (especially if they go to the PAC or B1G like I expect).
Point being just because its bad now because a GOAT coach is in the division doesn't mean it will alway be. Letting A&M in the SEC was the break the Arky program needed, and patience will reap large rewards for us all.
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