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We should move to the Big 12. It's time.

Posted on 10/8/16 at 7:09 pm
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 10/8/16 at 7:09 pm
SEC is too good, and the geography in the Big 12 makes more sense.
Posted by ocelot4ark
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 10/8/16 at 7:13 pm to
Pussy
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 10/8/16 at 7:14 pm to
Pragmatic pussy.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 10/8/16 at 7:22 pm to
It would be less exciting, and less interesting, but I agree. What's the point of putting yourself in a perpetual disadvantage to where you need the star to align perfectly once every 25 years just for a CHANCE to HOPEFULLY win your conference, and even that requires luck. What's the fricking point!?
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
22717 posts
Posted on 10/8/16 at 7:25 pm to
one answer for you....
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

It is Always and Only about the Bucks...

We will always be this in the SEC, Money in the bank, but not competing for anything special.

Business Model period.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28541 posts
Posted on 10/8/16 at 7:27 pm to
frick THAT

We're a Big 12 talent school trying to compete with NFL Light.

When I get old I'm not going to tell my grandchildren about all the great money Arkansas made in the SEC. My grandchilden won't give a frick about Arkansa football if we're just a perpetual doormat for the NFL Light blue bloods of the SEC.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 10/8/16 at 7:32 pm to
quote:

We will always be this in the SEC, Money in the bank, but not competing for anything special.


Great for the people making money, shitty for the fans and millions of people who support the team.
Posted by Porcine Human
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 10/8/16 at 7:43 pm to
yep
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65763 posts
Posted on 10/8/16 at 7:46 pm to
Meh, more sports than football.

I'd much rather be in the SEC for basketball and baseball.
Posted by Devil_doge
DFW
Member since Sep 2016
2499 posts
Posted on 10/8/16 at 7:50 pm to
quote:

one answer for you....
$$$


Which is why I'll never contribute another dime to this program.
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/8/16 at 8:21 pm to
We could be in the running every year for a b12 title
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
16950 posts
Posted on 10/8/16 at 8:33 pm to
We need a rockstar recruiter here but we won't pay to get him.
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
Member since Nov 2010
7734 posts
Posted on 10/8/16 at 8:35 pm to
We probably could recruit Texas better in the b12 too
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 10/9/16 at 8:22 am to
If the SEC keeps screwing LSU you might get a travel partner.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26498 posts
Posted on 10/9/16 at 8:24 am to
Agreed.

Arkansas doesn't have a lot of in-state, elite talent. If y'all could get a guy to raid Dallas, you'd be fine.

Or you could do the Ole Miss method and pay everyone?
This post was edited on 10/9/16 at 8:25 am
Posted by TejasPete
Member since Dec 2013
1425 posts
Posted on 10/9/16 at 8:41 am to
No. SEC West could level out in the next couple years. LSU could be Tennessee after firing Fulmer....Ole Miss could get sanction hammers dropped on them...Miss St looks like they have already regressed into a cellar dwellar and if Saban retires or moves to the NFL Bama could decline.

Also we could do very well in the Big XII with our teams now but we would decline if we moved so we'd be middle of the road again.

The real issue is lack of recruiting. At some point we have to get an all star recruiter on our staff. Petrino could win with schemes, Bert obviously can't.
Posted by Lionnation1993
Member since Nov 2013
6103 posts
Posted on 10/9/16 at 9:09 am to
LSU will gladly come
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 10/9/16 at 9:17 am to
Things will work out in time.

The honest truth is that Texas really did cut yall off from Texas recruiting by refusing to play yall way back when, and today you aren't even on the mental map of Texas recruits. I wish I could say the Southwest Classic is undoing that local brand damage, but A&M isn't important enough, the game is too early, and Arky hasn't had a lot of success in that game recently.

It will all work out in the long run. The LHN contract goes through 2030 and Texas doesn't seem like they want to get rid of it before then. By 2030 the recruits of that day will have lived their entire lives in a world where the State of Texas is part of the SEC and where the SEC is the most relevant conference in that state. Sometime in the next decade it should be easier for both A&M and Arky to recruit kids that otherwise would have gone to Big 12 teams, and if LSU screws up their next hire (very likely given their piss poor AD) then that script could flip even sooner.

Losing to a Bama sucks today but it is that Bama brand that is smothering Texas and OU in the state and making it easier for all SEC teams to recruit well down the road. If OU decides to break away from the Big 12 (and give up the Texas rivalry game in the process) then things could change ever faster. OU in the SEC would build up both Arky (who gets a regional rival) and A&M (who gets to take over the RRR as the big game in Texas OU needs for recruiting). At that point Texas's three major rivals will all be attacking the brand and appeal of their program, and together I am pretty sure we can turn them into a Nebraska (especially if they go to the PAC or B1G like I expect).

Point being just because its bad now because a GOAT coach is in the division doesn't mean it will alway be. Letting A&M in the SEC was the break the Arky program needed, and patience will reap large rewards for us all.
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