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re: UALR, it's time to add a football program.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 3:33 pm to CtotheVrzrbck
Posted on 9/3/15 at 3:33 pm to CtotheVrzrbck
Football programs aren't necessarily a cash cow.
In P5, yes. A lot of programs have to subsidize their athletics year after year. How much does a school like Arkansas State actually "make" on their athletic program? do they break even most years?
In P5, yes. A lot of programs have to subsidize their athletics year after year. How much does a school like Arkansas State actually "make" on their athletic program? do they break even most years?
Posted on 9/3/15 at 6:13 pm to Numberwang
They make a hell of a lot more from football than they do soccer, track, women's basketball, lacrosse, swimming, jai alai, water polo, golf etc.
Football and basketball are the only sports that have a chance to generate any sort of income.
Football and basketball are the only sports that have a chance to generate any sort of income.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 8:11 pm to pioneerbasketball
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Arkansas has enough college programs.
Posted on 9/4/15 at 1:59 am to CtotheVrzrbck
What are the attendance records for UALR basketball? Not all that great is the last I knew. I'm trying to figure out who would actually go watch them be the annual door mat for almost 10 years after they establish, since they can't even get much bbal fan support.
I take it I'm the only one up at 2 am, too.
I take it I'm the only one up at 2 am, too.
Posted on 9/4/15 at 10:43 am to CtotheVrzrbck
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They make a hell of a lot more from football than they do soccer, track, women's basketball, lacrosse, swimming, jai alai, water polo, golf etc.
It's true, but for a school like A-State, their athletic department is at a break-even position, if even that. They garner more money from "student fees" and from "donations" to the football program out of university coffers than they do from ticket and merchandise sales.
I doubt their ticket and merchandise sales even pay for the football program's expenses. It is propped up via other means, like "student activity fees" and checks written by the academic side of the school.
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Posted on 9/6/15 at 12:02 am to CtotheVrzrbck
This all seems like a really bad idea and I'm surprised it's even being entertained. I know UALR has tried to become more of a traditional college, but it's still a commuter school and most of it's students have no interest in supporting a basketball team; much less a football team. Despite what some of you seem to believe, I'm sure the UA is still very dependent on Central Arkansas fans and so I really doubt that they'd want UALR to field a team.
If UALR did field a team, they'd probably have to steal some UA fans just to fill the stands. Most UALR students are UA fans first, for example. Also, I suspect that Central Arkansas funds the UA much more then some of you want to believe. And while the effect on recruiting wouldn't be huge, there would be an effect and it would hurt.
Not sure what prompted this thread, but UALR is what it is and there's nothing wrong with it. If it ever becomes more then it is now, then it'll come at the expense of the UA in many ways.
I'll close by mentioning Kiehl and Josh Frazier, Lee Ziemba and Kodi Burns, who I know aren't the only players to leave NWA in recent years, but they're the one's that come to mind now.
If UALR did field a team, they'd probably have to steal some UA fans just to fill the stands. Most UALR students are UA fans first, for example. Also, I suspect that Central Arkansas funds the UA much more then some of you want to believe. And while the effect on recruiting wouldn't be huge, there would be an effect and it would hurt.
Not sure what prompted this thread, but UALR is what it is and there's nothing wrong with it. If it ever becomes more then it is now, then it'll come at the expense of the UA in many ways.
I'll close by mentioning Kiehl and Josh Frazier, Lee Ziemba and Kodi Burns, who I know aren't the only players to leave NWA in recent years, but they're the one's that come to mind now.
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