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re: so when is Anderson on the hot seat?

Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:27 pm to
Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:27 pm to
I mean honestly, Qualls got lucky for the lane violation on his FT or we wouldn't have been in position to win it anyways. He has had several game winning shots for us, but Madden had some huge threes late against Florida to send it to OT too, we just didn't win. He's been clutch for us too at times but it didn't go our way today

And he's an 80% FT shooter so idk where that came from

Posted by Hubbhogg
Fayettechill
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:29 pm to
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And he's an 80% FT shooter so idk where that came from


He's not clutch was what I'm saying
Posted by Raz4back
Member since Mar 2011
3950 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:35 pm to
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I'd say Qualls and Portis are the best players, and what I'd like to see is a play at some point with screens and back cuts etc




There was a screen, set by Clarke around the free throw line. Mizzou overloaded the screen side of the zone, when the defender on the offside jumped the passing lane to Qualls it left Madden the lane. It was a well executed play.
Posted by Raz4back
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:39 pm to
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I'm sorry but that layup was nowhere near open.




There was not a single man between Madden and the basket when he released the ball. That is a pretty open look.

If Mizzou made that exact same shot to win the game you would be pissed for the poor defense and "open" look that they got
This post was edited on 2/13/14 at 11:42 pm
Posted by Hubbhogg
Fayettechill
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:40 pm to
Silver Linings Playbook
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:42 pm to
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Silver Linings Playbook



Great movie if you haven't seen it.
Posted by Raz4back
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:43 pm to
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Silver Linings Playbook


So you argue something, are proved wrong, and then cry moral victory or silver linings
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:50 pm to
Look, you can focus on the last play and dissect it and conclude as to why it didn't work, etc.

But the previous two defensive possessions is what lost the game, the first Portis needlessly fouled by dropping his arms down, he was in the right position and the shot actually hit the bottom of the back board from the driver being out of control towards the basket, he keeps his arms strait up and that is a no call 90% of the time.

The next position Clark was late to rotate to help defend the basket giving up an easy lay up.

Sound defense on either one of those possessions and we are not having this discussion.
Posted by Hubbhogg
Fayettechill
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:50 pm to
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So you argue something, are proved wrong, and then cry moral victory or silver linings


When was I proved wrong exactly? We have differing opinions on the final few plays, there's no correct answer.

I'm just not a fan of under .500 basketball in a shitty conference personally. That's what this thread is about, underachieving in the eyes of some of us. To say we haven't underachieved this season is BS, yet you're in here defending it
Posted by Hubbhogg
Fayettechill
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:53 pm to
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Sound defense on either one of those possessions and we are not having this discussion.



Agreed. Honestly, I think the major problem with this team is that we're not very smart. Too many dumb mistakes in every facet of the game, and it adds up to losses in the end
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42351 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:57 pm to
They make a bunch of Freshmen and Sophomore mistakes, but that goes along with relying on freshmen and sophomores.

Posted by Hubbhogg
Fayettechill
Member since Dec 2010
13437 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:59 pm to
Great players have basketball IQ ingrained though, and I don't see a single kid like that on our roster. I think Portis will be a pro b/c of raw talent and size. Qualls maybe b/c of athletiscm, but we don't have a high bball IQ player on the roster currently IMO
Posted by Raz4back
Member since Mar 2011
3950 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:59 pm to
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When was I proved wrong exactly? We have differing opinions on the final few plays, there's no correct answer.


Proved wrong may not be the correct wording. Shown differently?

You said that you wanted to see a screen on the last play. I showed you that there was and you make some smart arse reply.

I don't think anyone is happy with the results, but it is what it is. This program was worse than a dumpster fire and it's going to take more than 2 recruiting classes to get out of it, especially when kids can't be cut loose.

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Great players have basketball IQ ingrained though


There aren't many of those kids coming to a football conference to play basketball.
This post was edited on 2/14/14 at 12:02 am
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42351 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 12:02 am to
There are a couple, but they are 6'0" tall.

The biggest issue up to the point, besides defensive breakdowns which are going to happen when you play aggressively, has been shot selection.

It has improved, it isn't perfect, but there is less times during the game I want to throw shite because of a dumb fricking shot taken 4 seconds into the clock.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 2/14/14 at 12:18 am to
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There was not a single man between Madden and the basket when he released the ball. That is a pretty open look.
When he started that shot, he was directly in front of the tallest player on the court who had his hands straight up in the air. Do you not see the position he had to get in just to get a clear look at the basket? That's not open. By that logic, any shot is "open" if someone leans a little.

Look at how the entire Mizzou team committed to stopping that layup. All he has to do is kick it to #1 and he has the option to either take that wide open midrange jumper or even take a few steps in and bank it off the glass. Taking that shot was the worst option he had.
This post was edited on 2/14/14 at 12:20 am
Posted by Woopigsooie20
Me Scusi
Member since Mar 2010
57359 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 1:49 am to
It was drawn up to get him to the rim, that's about as good a shot you're going to get at the rim at the buzzer. I would take that shot 100 times before the shots he took against Kentucky and Georgia.

He could have probably pulled up a little earlier like he did vs Vanderbilt and kicked it out, but hindsight is 20/20.
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
37538 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 6:04 am to
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He is a bigger dick of a person than Petrino, the whole "don't speak unless spoken to" rule for subordinates


I've always thought that was silly. I've been in locker rooms where that was a prevailing thought and it was a shitty vibe, a pay dues, pay respect kind of thing when really everyone should just be cool with each other and know everyone is working toward a common goal in improving the organization.


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refusal to kiss the people's arse who needs to be kissed, etc.



Not a bad thing in my book, and it's what's needed to break up a GOBN strangling competitiveness out of a program.


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His rosters have been made up of talent players, mainly JUCOs, fine except those same players would not have qualified for SEC play.


This there is no rebuttal for, maybe the SEC isn't geared for success in basketball where the best players typically come from inner cities where basketball is one of the few options for them and school isn't that important because they all hope to be one and dones and the corrupt AAU and prep school system already has their hooks into kids looking to cash hoop checks not ace chem tests.


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He turned the fricking job down.



Wouldn't you have after what Pel would've left you?
Posted by WonderWartHawg
Member since Dec 2010
10403 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 7:10 am to
The ball was in his hand, no more than 4 feet from the rim (my estimation), with nothing directly between the ball and the rim. Can't ask for a whole lot more than that. Got jostled enough to throw off the shot a little, just didn't make it.

We are not turning the corner just yet, but I think we are starting into the curve.

Hope Qualls and Madden hang around one more year, if they don't it's a step backwards I think.
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
Member since Nov 2010
7788 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 7:21 am to
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Can't ask for a whole lot more than that.


This.

That's exactly the position we wanted to be in. 80-90% of the time you're either going to make that layup, get a foul called, or get a rebound with an easy put back.
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
Member since Nov 2010
7788 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 7:27 am to
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All he has to do is kick it to #1


This makes me think you don't watch much Arkansas basketball.

#1 = Mardracus Wade.

Even if you knew that and were just using short hand... you really want the ball in Mardracus Wade's hands with < 5 seconds left?
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