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Sam = Mike

Posted on 10/21/23 at 6:47 pm
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 10/21/23 at 6:47 pm
Everyone like the guy, everyone wanted him to do well, he has the program stable…

Neither could win a game that truly mattered. Both are players coaches. Hopefully Hunter can find a Muss of football, but I don’t have a clue who that would be.
Posted by Riggle
Blue Ridge Mountains
Member since Feb 2013
3227 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 6:52 pm to
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Neither could win a game that truly mattered. Both are players coaches.


Mike won 2 tournament games and left the program in a state to attract Muss. Sam ain't close to that.
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
7214 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 7:35 pm to
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Mike won 2 tournament games and left the program in a state to attract Muss. Sam ain't close to that.


You obviously don’t know what you are talking about, everything is pretty damn good player wise except depth in secondary, linebacker and we don’t have an offensive line.

That’s why this sucks so much more, everyone in the west was finally down, and we decided to step on the fricking rake like sideshow Bob.
Posted by Riggle
Blue Ridge Mountains
Member since Feb 2013
3227 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 8:02 pm to
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You obviously don’t know what you are talking about, everything is pretty damn good player wise except depth in secondary, linebacker and we don’t have an offensive line


? Mike never had a losing record at Arkansas while Sam is fielding our 3rd worst team ever (thank God for Chad Morris). I guess it's emotionally validating to think the roster isn't that bad.
Posted by STLhog
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2015
17716 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 9:58 pm to
Re: OP, what are you talking about?

Mike has been to an elite 8, beat Kentucky multiple times, made a SECT championship game, won NCAAT games….

Sam has lost to Liberty, BYU and the worst miss state team in 25 years at home scoring 3 points.

He’s John Pelphrey and doesn’t deserve to sniff Mikes jock strap.

This post was edited on 10/22/23 at 9:12 am
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
7214 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 12:02 am to
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Mike has been to an elite 8, beat Kentucky multiple times, made a SECT championship game, won NCAAT games….


He did all that here? Or did he just make a tournament and not get embarrassed by losing in the first round twice? That’s the same as winning a no one cares bowl game.
Posted by VagueMessage
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Jun 2013
3902 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 2:09 am to
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? Mike never had a losing record at Arkansas while Sam is fielding our 3rd worst team ever (thank God for Chad Morris). I guess it's emotionally validating to think the roster isn't that bad.


He never had a losing season in a game with 32 regular season games, plus a conference tournament. Was it really more satisfying to watch him go 16–16 that time so he could maintain his "never had a losing season" brag? He missed the tournament 5 out of 8 times. He missed a postseason entirely 3 times. Like, not even an NIT appearance.

That's a 6–6 coach at best in football.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
57809 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 2:47 am to
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He’s the fat frick version of John Pelphrey and doesn’t deserve to sniff Mikes jock strap.
I'm upset with the job he's done the last couple of years too, but let's not be so quick to throw away a 9-4 year after what we've been through. At least give Sam his credit where he's earned it. He pulled us out of the mire. Now he may be lowering us right back down in it if he isn't careful, but it's not like he isn't trying. He's just not suited for the job long term.

I'm not saying extend the guy, but let's not treat him like Morris on the way out. He's at least earned better than that.
Posted by Poker_hog
Member since Mar 2019
2921 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 6:48 am to
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I'm upset with the job he's done the last couple of years too, but let's not be so quick to throw away a 9-4 year after what we've been through. At least give Sam his credit where he's earned it.


The pelphrey analogy is actually really good. Pel also had some success early on. The coaching searches were both complete shite shows. Both coaches clearly in over their head.
Posted by ArHog
Muss is a coward
Member since Jan 2008
32996 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 6:59 am to
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'm upset with the job he's done the last couple of years too, but let's not be so quick to throw away a 9-4 year after what we've been through.


C'mon Drew
Sam just pulled a HDN and used Chaggie recruiting to win 9 games. Sam is an absolute fricking joke as a HC.

Just look at the OL. Sam's position coach the fat tub of lard he is sucks arse. That's a reflection on Sam.

frick him, Cody Kennedy should've been fired yesterday
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
57809 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 7:15 am to
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Sam just pulled a HDN and used Chaggie recruiting to win 9 games. Sam is an absolute fricking joke as a HC.
9 wins is the best season we've had since Petrino and he stomped a mud hole in Texas while doing it. I don't give a damn how he did it. That alone earns him the right to be treated better than this. This isn't another situation where the coach got here and nothing but bad things happened. A change of head coach doesn't have to include pitchforks, a mob, and a bunch of personal attacks. That's all I'm saying. It's not like he's unaware of his situation or taunting the fanbase. Calling him fat and discrediting the things he actually HAS done doesn't do anyone any good.
This post was edited on 10/22/23 at 7:24 am
Posted by ArHog
Muss is a coward
Member since Jan 2008
32996 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 7:41 am to
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It's not like he's unaware of his situation or taunting the fanbase


He's not aware enough to fire that fat POS Cody Kennedy yet, so frick him.

The OL is a joke and that is totally on Titboss.
Posted by JeffLebowski
Member since Feb 2015
1788 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 7:54 am to
He’s been paid millions to win sports games and he’s not doing if. I’d wager your job is probably more important and you’d not be given a leash like this unless you’re a Tyson kid… personal attacks are going to happen when you say the kind of dumb shite he does during pressers bc it’s crazy fans who take it very personal that he’s getting paid what they don’t and he’s admitting to not even knowing what he’s doing or trying. He’s here to cash checks and will be until we stop giving them to him. We SHOULD be using this time to conduct a legit coaching search for once, but our AD isn’t capable of doing that. Folks just don’t want to admit the loser mentality and culture of Arkansas football. It’s dangerous because that can permeate to other sports that were good at and we’re losing money. Not making bowls when you have the personnel to do it(even if it’s a lower tier bowl is a big deal). There’s not a reason to defend him for anything. He’s reaping the seeds he sewed when he jumped in bed with Jimmy Sexton. And no, he didn’t deserve what he got then.
Posted by ArHog
Muss is a coward
Member since Jan 2008
32996 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 8:08 am to
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He’s reaping the seeds he sewed when he jumped in bed with Jimmy Sexton. And no, he didn’t deserve what he got then.



Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
57809 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 8:42 am to
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He’s here to cash checks and will be until we stop giving them to him.
This is just a disingenuous take on Pittman to me. He took a job no one else wanted and brought some semblance of pride back to the program. It's weird to act like he's got some kind of malicious intent now. Seems unnecessarily vitriolic.
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12458 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 8:59 am to
Sam will be given much more leeway since our fanbase can really relate to drunk, fat white guys.

Posted by The Sultan of Swine
Member since Nov 2010
7759 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 9:14 am to
Didn't work for Bert
Posted by STLhog
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2015
17716 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 9:19 am to
Fair. Backed off the fat piece although that is very within his control and is just a bad look for someone of his financial stature and influence.

But this notion he has done some kind of charity work for us is what drives me crazy. You yourself said we are the 15th aggregate talented team in the league.

We’re staring down the barrel of another 0-fer SEC season and your tone sounds like Sam has graciously left us in a better place.

He’s making 6M, has made horrific hires, refuses to make personal changes and has admitted he has no idea what he’s doing in games.

Meanwhile Mizzou is top 25, we’ve lost to Aggie for a decade, Bama for 2 and it’s a huge doubt whether we can even beat FIU at home.

I definitely could tone it down but I think the vitriol and general disgust is warranted. Especially with all the dick swagger he tried to carry around after 9-4.
This post was edited on 10/22/23 at 9:20 am
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
57809 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 11:11 am to
He's in over his head and needs to be replaced. We're all in agreement there.

That case can be made without going after him personally and discrediting the good things he did. That's my only assertion here. For all his flaws, he loves the Razorbacks and wanted us when no one else did. We should be able to let him go without putting his character through the mud.
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
22753 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 9:19 pm to
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He's in over his head and needs to be replaced. We're all in agreement there.

That case can be made without going after him personally and discrediting the good things he did. That's my only assertion here. For all his flaws, he loves the Razorbacks and wanted us when no one else did. We should be able to let him go without putting his character through the mud.


All of this.... I am not sure what gives folks the impression, that being dickheads to anybody of any position who has shown ethics, and perseverance, is acceptable.

Nobody, and I mean nobody wanted this damn job when Sam took it over. Yep, time to go... but again, read the above!
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