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Posted on 10/4/23 at 9:11 pm to Razorback Reverend
Posted on 10/4/23 at 9:11 pm to Razorback Reverend
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Also, we as fans do not have the patience to wait out another HDN after experiencing a BP.
The shame is that we didn’t get to see how Petrino would have played out after that talented group left. That team was loaded for his offense and the chances of replicating that was slim to none.
Could he have kept up that pace of winning with less talent? Who knows, Louisville maybe.
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Posted on 10/4/23 at 11:17 pm to Clark14
his recruiting was definitively dropping off..
Posted on 10/5/23 at 12:46 am to Razorback Reverend
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his recruiting was definitively dropping off..
He may have had a Lou Holtz type of run, Lou was considered an offensive genius, but not a good recruiter.
Even with all that talent Petrino had he didn’t win anything that mattered, no different than his predecessor. How can that be?
So close but yet so far……….same as it ever was.
Posted on 10/5/23 at 6:15 am to Clark14
quote:going 11-2 while losing to the top 2 teams in the country and winning the cotton bowl is a lot better than going 5-7,4-8, or 2-10 and losing to byu, Liberty, San jose state, north Texas, Rutgers, Texas tech, Toledo and western kentucky.
same as it ever was.
This post was edited on 10/5/23 at 7:14 am
Posted on 10/5/23 at 7:11 am to Clark14
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Lou was considered an offensive genius
What did that mean in the 70s? They can throw before 3rd and Long?
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:43 pm to FayetteNAM
When we hired Lou Holtz we were arguably one of the top 10 best jobs in college football.
We ain't that anymore regardless of how much bluster you want to blow.
Don't misunderstand...I'm sick of watching the product we put out on the field. I don't think Sam is a SEC Head Coach (great guy...great position coach)...I'm just resigned to the reality of our football program not meeting the standards it should. I don't see a mega booster stepping up and funding it...and that is EXACTLY what it would take to buy the coaches and players that teams like TAMU and LSU are buying. It is that simple.
It was a huge mistake to think that building facilities would do it without hiring coaches first. That ship sailed.
And...non of the knuckle draggers who are so sure they could go hire a top coach have convinced me that Arkansas can or will.
That's reality...like it or not.
We ain't that anymore regardless of how much bluster you want to blow.
Don't misunderstand...I'm sick of watching the product we put out on the field. I don't think Sam is a SEC Head Coach (great guy...great position coach)...I'm just resigned to the reality of our football program not meeting the standards it should. I don't see a mega booster stepping up and funding it...and that is EXACTLY what it would take to buy the coaches and players that teams like TAMU and LSU are buying. It is that simple.
It was a huge mistake to think that building facilities would do it without hiring coaches first. That ship sailed.
And...non of the knuckle draggers who are so sure they could go hire a top coach have convinced me that Arkansas can or will.
That's reality...like it or not.
Posted on 10/5/23 at 6:36 pm to Rzrbackguy
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Rzrbackguy
everything he said...
Posted on 10/5/23 at 6:57 pm to FayetteNAM
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What did that mean in the 70s? They can throw before 3rd and Long?
Lou could game plan with the best of them and won games he shouldn’t have or wasn’t given a chance in.
He had an argument for a natty after the 1978 orange bowl but of course Arkansas was ignored. That’s the closest to a natty we’ve had since Frank but we just couldn’t stop Earl Campbell for all 4 quarters and lost a close one to texas.
As usual, so close but yet so far…….
Posted on 10/6/23 at 5:53 pm to HogX
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Welcome to the SEC, bruh. There are plenty of coaches that have the self-confidence to take a high-major job because they don't expect to lose.
And the $5+ million a year helps too.
If you go back before Pittman and Chad, we literally had 2 coaches that were top tier on paper banging down our door to come here. Petrino was coaching in the NFL and wasn't even on our AD's radar until he had his agents reach out and beg for an interview. Bielema was doing well at Wisconsin and looked like he was going to continue the success of Alvarez, and he reached out to come here too. Deion wanted to come here just a couple years ago, and so did Norvell and Kiffin.
Just because our hires of Chad and Pittman have been underwhelming doesn't mean there isn't an appeal to coaching here. We just have to have the right mindset and be willing to take a risk at the university and AD level.
Something tells me Yurachek will be much more open to loosening the purse strings and going for the big hire this next time around with the SEC expansion, the playoffs expanding, UGA and Bama dynasties dying down, and LSU reeling. I have faith in him that he'll recognize the importance of the situation and he'll go big.
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This is a mediocre program, with mediocre financial support/backing from industries, boosters, with mediocre results, with a mediocre NIL,... and Mediocre coaching.
Arkansas is top 10 in the nation in NIL funding. Also in the top 25 in booster money, facilities, donations, and revenues. We have several large corporations with UofA ties throwing money at both the university and athletics, more than the lower 3/4 of SEC teams could ever pull in or dream of.
Money isn't the issue at all.
It's coaching, going cheap on coaching salaries, and a losing/underdog stigma attached to the program that are killing us. The right coach could win and win big here, we just need to lose the "small to mid-tier program" mindset plaguing the program.
Like I previously said, I know Yurachek is a smart man and I fully believe he recognizes what needs to happen to right the ship, and even make gains
This post was edited on 10/6/23 at 6:04 pm
Posted on 10/6/23 at 6:35 pm to RazorBroncs
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Something tells me Yurachek will be much more open to loosening the purse strings and going for the big hire this next time around
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Money isn't the issue at all.
Let's consider this scenario, when Muss wins a Natty he'll demand 6mil/yr. DVH wins one in the next year or two he'll need a raise to 2mil.
Now how are the funds to hire a football coach at 7mil?
ETA. And remember we have to buy out Pittman.
This post was edited on 10/6/23 at 6:37 pm
Posted on 10/6/23 at 6:39 pm to ArHog
quote:A. If we win a natty in both I don’t think we’ll be as pissed about football
Let's consider this scenario, when Muss wins a Natty he'll demand 6mil/yr. DVH wins one in the next year or two he'll need a raise to 2mil. Now how are the funds to hire a football coach at 7mil?
and B. I don’t think van horn would demand a super big pay raise and B. Same way Florida and Texas and lsu do itPosted on 10/6/23 at 6:47 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
These college pussys will go all in and demand if we can do it in those sports then dammit hire Coach X for 10 mil.
Posted on 10/6/23 at 6:49 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
If we reach that point we’ll do what the big schools do .
Focus funding on one girls sport and let the others live off scraps.
Our problem is we’re spread to much across all sports.
Go tell me what UGA’s men’s and women’s secondary programs do.
LSU? Gymnastics and women’s basketball. That’s about it.
Bama? Gymnastics and Softball.
We need to sink it all in the big 3 and then chose between women’s basketball or softball.
Nobody cares about tennis, golf, volleyball, or anything else.
Focus funding on one girls sport and let the others live off scraps.
Our problem is we’re spread to much across all sports.
Go tell me what UGA’s men’s and women’s secondary programs do.
LSU? Gymnastics and women’s basketball. That’s about it.
Bama? Gymnastics and Softball.
We need to sink it all in the big 3 and then chose between women’s basketball or softball.
Nobody cares about tennis, golf, volleyball, or anything else.
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