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re: Concerning my Bert thread on the rant (SEC Media Days related)

Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:35 am to
Posted by Litigator
Hog Jaw, Arkansas
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:35 am to
With this rules discussion and mention of pee wee football, competitive advantage and such it reminds me of a time where I was playing QB on the pee wee level and I would hand the ball to a running back and myself and others would then push him from behind down the field. He used to gain a lot of yards that way. Eventually they said it was illegal and then started flagging us for it. The last time I got a penalty for this I put my hand on his back but removed it remembering it was wrong (habits are hard to break) and still got flagged even though he wasn't pushed. I guess this is really illegal--always wondered even though I know this probably wouldn't be as effective at the higher levels.

May main objection to the HUNH (although I'm by no means a staunch opponent) is that I think each team should have sufficient time to get set--kind of a basic tenet of any sport really--don't think making the game more chaotic makes it more fun to watch or participate in, injury discussions aside.

Edit: I suppose assisting an offensive runner in this manner would be interlocking interference. LINK
This post was edited on 7/17/14 at 11:44 am
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:35 am to
But can't they do that now? Just take a knee or don't get up. It's a legitimate "cramping up".

For the record, if it's that serious and especially if it's potentially life threatening, I question if the kid should be playing at all. The harsh reality is that there are countless reasons why kids don't make it to the next level and health conditions/issues are one of them. It's just not worth it as much as the kid might think it is at the time.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42349 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:43 am to
quote:

But can't they do that now?


No, they can not, not in football.

quote:

Just take a knee or don't get up. It's a legitimate "cramping up".



I guess what I'm trying to say is I would rather see the ref stand over the ball for a few seconds after a player tells him he need a sub than wait through the commercial break while the trainers go to the field to attend a player "cramping up" real or fake.

Since the play clock was changed to condense the time of the game into a more friendly TV time slot, allow the ref to hold up a play for a few seconds would be more TV friendly than the faked injuries.

quote:

For the record, if it's that serious and especially if it's potentially life threatening, I question if the kid should be playing at all. The harsh reality is that there are countless reasons why kids don't make it to the next level and health conditions/issues are one of them. It's just not worth it as much as the kid might think it is at the time.


Sickle Cell is only dangerous and life threatening when a player is over-fatigued and over-exerted, from my understanding, it has never been a potential serious player safety issue until the play clock rule change in 08.

This post was edited on 7/17/14 at 10:44 am
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:56 am to
My first cousin recently discovered that he has Sickle Cell, which means that somewhere down the line....
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42349 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:02 am to


Not always.

But yes the trait is generally found in black males and black males make up a large portion (compared to population %) of athletics. So while the trait is relatively rare, it is an larger issue in athletics than for the general population.
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