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re: 6 wins in last 10 on the road
Posted on 2/11/15 at 12:03 pm to Stonehog
Posted on 2/11/15 at 12:03 pm to Stonehog
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It's really only one poster going full retard right now, but I think he's just doing it for attention.
And it's not me this time!
I've grown happier and happier with the team over the last few weeks. They're competing in every game, even when they're up against the refs. They've shown what they're capable of when they're focused. The defense has gotten MUCH better, though I suppose that's partially reflective of our competition. But I'm still happy with the effort. And Madden has been playing very smart & controlled. I think Beard's help defense has rubbed off on some of our guys because it seems like we're getting more strips from our help defenders (Beard is so very good at this...I imagine the NBA will love his IQ).
I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that we've somewhat rounded a corner. The team just seems to be playing with more consistency & effort. If they keep building on this, we could have a fun March.
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Posted on 2/11/15 at 12:29 pm to ocelot4ark
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The team just seems to be playing with more consistency & effort.
This is the big difference, and I think the Florida game was a turning point. The team realized that with a little more effort, they could have beaten Florida easily. Now they're playing harder, smarter, and they aren't scraping by to get wins.
Posted on 2/11/15 at 12:47 pm to Stonehog
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In fairness, everything Ultimate has said in this thread is wrong. Smart fans are satisfied.
Smart fans should certainly be fairly satisfied with the way this team has come together and is playing at a higher level than any Razorback team since probably the Ronnie Brewer days.
Some of our under-recruited guys are playing much better than higher rated recruits on other teams.
My concern is with next year. If Portis and Qualls leave early, somebody explain to me how we take the remaining players and manage somehow to finish in the top half of the conference, much less compete for post season play.
MA's highest rated recruiting class by far is the one he inherited from Pel. His second best class is the one with the gift wrapped Portis in it at #22. The other two and the one this year are well out of the top 30.
I think his average team ranking over his five recruiting classes counting the one on going is in the high 40's.
The high 40's for Christ sake!
Maybe MA can convince Portis to stay one more year so our program doesn't collapse and it buys MA one more year to shore up his dreadful recruiting performance.
Posted on 2/11/15 at 1:00 pm to PygmalionEffect
Nolan was never known for high recruiting rankings. I remember his quote about McDonald's AA, Nolan said he got Burger King AA.
Was Corliss the highest rated player he ever got? Was Joe Johnson a McD's AA?
Was Corliss the highest rated player he ever got? Was Joe Johnson a McD's AA?
Posted on 2/11/15 at 2:08 pm to Person of interest
Derek Hood, Todd Day, Lee Mayberry and Corliss Williamson were all McD's AAs.
Andrew Lang and Joe Kline also got that honor. I think that's all the Arkansas McDonald's All Americans. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Andrew Lang and Joe Kline also got that honor. I think that's all the Arkansas McDonald's All Americans. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Posted on 2/11/15 at 2:25 pm to whataboar
Maybe Kareem Reid too.
Posted on 2/11/15 at 3:58 pm to whataboar
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I think that's all the Arkansas McDonald's All Americans. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Looks like we've had 13. The site below has 12 listed but I am positive that Willie Cutts was one also. He came out of Bryant in 1981 but he was a head case and Sutton had to cut ties with him and he transferred to AState.
McDonalds All-Americans since 1977
Posted on 2/11/15 at 4:47 pm to hogminer
So mike sanchez was the crown jewel of 07 class. Thats cool.
Posted on 2/11/15 at 8:13 pm to Person of interest
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Maybe Kareem Reid too.
He was, he redshirted in 95 as well, different times.
Corliss and Darnell Robinson were the only two highly recruited players on the 93-95 rosters. The rest would have been 2-3 stars using today's ranking systems.
Posted on 2/11/15 at 8:19 pm to PygmalionEffect
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My concern is with next year. If Portis and Qualls leave early, somebody explain to me how we take the remaining players and manage somehow to finish in the top half of the conference, much less compete for post season play.
It simple, its a guard oriented game today, Arkansas will have one of the best if not the best group of guards in the SEC next season, with or without Qualls.
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MA's highest rated recruiting class by far is the one he inherited from Pel.
Yeah, about that.
Pel had two top 10 classes full of busts, out of those 12 players the only one to have had a decent college career has been Madden.
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His second best class is the one with the gift wrapped Portis in it at #22.
Gift wrapped, lol.
There were two players in that recruiting class.
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The other two and the one this year are well out of the top 30.
The one this year has one player in the class.
If you noticed Pel and Heath's triumphs in the recruiting rankins, by team rank, you would have figured out that quantity trumps quality by the websites and it isn't a matter of every team signing the same amount of players each year.
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Maybe MA can convince Portis to stay one more year so our program doesn't collapse and it buys MA one more year to shore up his dreadful recruiting performance.
He has recruited one bust to Arkansas out of his classes, he kept Pel's last class of busts even when the only player he was interested in while at Mizzou, Madden, has shown to be the only non bust in the class.
But hey:
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Some of our under-recruited guys are playing much better than higher rated recruits on other teams.
Posted on 2/11/15 at 8:20 pm to DaleDenton
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he redshirted in 95 as well
I believe he was a prop 48. Back then they were allowed to go on scholarship and practice with the team, they just couldn't participate in games.
Posted on 2/11/15 at 8:27 pm to Raz4back
Yeah, now days they (meaning a blue chip recruit) would have to go to a mid-major or overseas for a year.
Posted on 2/11/15 at 9:53 pm to Person of interest
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Maybe Kareem Reid too.
God Kareem Reid was one of my favorites. I hate that he wasn't on an NCAA championship team but at least he led Fat Joe's Terror Squad to a Rucker Park championship. That's good.
Posted on 2/11/15 at 10:07 pm to PygmalionEffect
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Maybe MA can convince Portis to stay one more year so our program doesn't collapse and it buys MA one more year to shore up his dreadful recruiting performance.
Not gonna happen, Portis is long gone.
Maybe MA can land a solid JUCO forward, if not, we're so fricked next year.
We made the final 3 for Ted Kapita, but he hasn't even played a game in HS this year due to a hip injury and may not play at all. Won't get much out of him for a year or two like a Kingsley if we do land him.
Then you take away Madden and Harris, and we're going to be pretty damn terrible going forward until maybe 2016 if we land Monk and his 1 season.
This season is more of a mirage than any kind of hope for sustained success, we'll be a bubble NIT team as it stands right now for next season. He's got to get some recruits, specifically bigs, and quick. Brand new practice facility opening in a few months, nationally ranked this season, NCAAT team with maybe a semi-deep run, no excuses anymore.
This post was edited on 2/11/15 at 10:12 pm
Posted on 2/11/15 at 10:49 pm to DaleDenton
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It simple, its a guard oriented game today, Arkansas will have one of the best if not the best group of guards in the SEC next season, with or without Qualls.
It is probably a more guard oriented game, but you still have to have solid front court players to be successful as a team and there is a strong possibility that we won't have that next year.
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He has recruited one bust to Arkansas out of his classes, he kept Pel's last class of busts even when the only player he was interested in while at Mizzou, Madden, has shown to be the only non bust in the class
The problem with this statement is that when you recruit a 5 star or 4 star and they don't contribute materially to the success of the team they are considered busts, but if they are a 2 star or a 3 star recruit and they don't contribute materially, then I guess in your mind they aren't considered a bust because they were never expected to be a difference maker in the first place.
B.J. Young probably > Athlon Bell, J. Williams, M. Watkins,J. Durham, T.Thompson, N.Babb, D. Wagner, K. Miles, up to this point, but most of MA's recruits are freshmen or sophomores, so it's a little early to place labels on any of them.
Quality trumps quantity but you have to field a team and quit depending on these juco and transfer band aids.
Wouldn't surprise me if Kingsley and Williams take it to another level next year, but something pretty special is going to need to happen to keep this from being our peak year in basketball for a while, maybe a surprise late signing.
I'm not trying to be negative, I'm just trying to be realistic on how things are shaping up for us after this year due to our poor recruting.
Team recruiting rankings of 67th,38th,22nd,and 58th are not going to get it done long term, even in the SEC.
It's still not going to prevent me from enjoying what could be a very special season THIS YEAR.
Posted on 2/11/15 at 11:23 pm to UltimateHog
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Not gonna happen, Portis is long gone.
It's probably 50/50 right now. I figure he'll probably go, but it definitely not a done deal.
Posted on 2/11/15 at 11:38 pm to Raz4back
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It's probably 50/50 right now. I figure he'll probably go, but it definitely not a done deal.
I don't know where you get your information, but people close to Portis are saying it's a done deal and about 90/10.
Guess one can dream for the sake of dreaming.
Currently slotted to go #14 overall per ESPN's latest Mock Draft updated today, and #13 on DraftNet. Last years draft that got Payne from MSU (#15 pick) 3.8 million in guaranteed money, 1.85 million in 2014, 1.93 in 2015, 2.02 in 2016, 3.1 in 2017, and 4.3 in 2018. The #13 pick got 4.4 million guaranteed and about 300K more per year.
His stock continues to climb with each new update as well, he jumped 14 spots from ESPN's last update in early January. At his current play rate, very very possible he gets down near the top 10 at the 9/10/11 range.
This post was edited on 2/11/15 at 11:49 pm
Posted on 2/12/15 at 12:00 am to whataboar
When I was a senior in high school our basketball team played in the King Cotyon in PB. First game was St. Raymond Bronx and our second game was against Waco
Posted on 2/12/15 at 12:23 am to sugatowng
So what you're saying is that you only played two games in the tournament. And I'm using the term played loosely in this scenario.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 6:02 am to PygmalionEffect
The total collapse nose dive was said to happen when Powell and Young left.
Mainly because an up to that point awkward lowly recruited guy from LA name Qualls wasn't the caliber of Guard needed. Williams the same, total project who would never pan out.
Take this weak arse concern troll back to HiV where they do not have the mental capacity to see that the "67th" ranked team class contains one player at this date, a top 50 guard who is a perfect fit for what Anderson wants to do.
Mainly because an up to that point awkward lowly recruited guy from LA name Qualls wasn't the caliber of Guard needed. Williams the same, total project who would never pan out.
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Team recruiting rankings of 67th,38th,22nd,and 58th are not going to get it done long term, even in the SEC.
Take this weak arse concern troll back to HiV where they do not have the mental capacity to see that the "67th" ranked team class contains one player at this date, a top 50 guard who is a perfect fit for what Anderson wants to do.
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