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What about next year..
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:18 pm
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:18 pm
We add De Boer / Grub vs Rees
What do you think that would add to our per game scoring average? Is 8 points reasonable? More or less?
Does the new OLine coach result in equal or better output?
Does the reduction in bad snaps result in equal or better?
JAM/Haynes/Young vs Jase / Roydell equal or better?
All of those combined I will guess 10 points per game improvement.
That would put Alabama at 44 points per game average.
Defense
Front 6 or 7 - better or worse? I think it will be close to a push.
CB play - better or worse? I will guess 7 points per game worse. Younger at CB but the system should be easier for them to play fast.
Safety play - better or worse? I will guess 6 points per game worse. Easier system for them to play fast. replacing a very good Safety and a pretty good safety - but both were 1st year players for Alabama.
SO that would put us at an average of 13 points per game worse. or 32 points per game average.
So we would be looking at 44 to 32 season average scoring. That should give Alabama bout 9 to 10 wins and maybe even a playoff birth.
The sky may be gray but it is not falling.
What do you think that would add to our per game scoring average? Is 8 points reasonable? More or less?
Does the new OLine coach result in equal or better output?
Does the reduction in bad snaps result in equal or better?
JAM/Haynes/Young vs Jase / Roydell equal or better?
All of those combined I will guess 10 points per game improvement.
That would put Alabama at 44 points per game average.
Defense
Front 6 or 7 - better or worse? I think it will be close to a push.
CB play - better or worse? I will guess 7 points per game worse. Younger at CB but the system should be easier for them to play fast.
Safety play - better or worse? I will guess 6 points per game worse. Easier system for them to play fast. replacing a very good Safety and a pretty good safety - but both were 1st year players for Alabama.
SO that would put us at an average of 13 points per game worse. or 32 points per game average.
So we would be looking at 44 to 32 season average scoring. That should give Alabama bout 9 to 10 wins and maybe even a playoff birth.
The sky may be gray but it is not falling.
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Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:20 pm to Tw1st3d
Are you on crack?
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:27 pm to JIB
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Are you on crack?
I did not ask any question where that would be a reasoned answer. Please try again.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 12:01 am to Tw1st3d
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I did not ask any question where that would be a reasoned answer. Please try again.
I believe that was a rhetorical question.
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We add De Boer / Grub vs Rees
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What do you think that would add to our per game scoring average? Is 8 points reasonable? More or less?
I'd say at least a TD, as much as 10.
Does the new OLine coach result in equal or better output?
It's a different system, let's hope the guys we have can adjust to the new system.
Does the reduction in bad snaps result in equal or better?
Coaches will fix this issue. 100%
JAM/Haynes/Young vs Jase / Roydell equal or better?
Jam and Haynes, split the carries equally, both get around 600 yards
All of those combined I will guess 10 points per game improvement.
That would put Alabama at 44 points per game average.
I think BAMA has what it takes to be explosive on offense.
Defense
Front 6 or 7 - better or worse? I think it will be close to a push.
Push
CB play - better or worse? I will guess 7 points per game worse. Younger at CB but the system should be easier for them to play fast.
Safety play - better or worse? I will guess 6 points per game worse. Easier system for them to play fast. replacing a very good Safety and a pretty good safety - but both were 1st year players for Alabama.
Our secondary won't be better with Downs, Kool-Aid, and Arnold gone.
SO that would put us at an average of 13 points per game worse. or 32 points per game average.
So we would be looking at 44 to 32 season average scoring. That should give Alabama bout 9 to 10 wins and maybe even a playoff birth.
I think BAMA goes 10-2 but just misses the playoffs.
The sky may be gray but it is not falling.
I believe BAMA is going to surprise a lot of people.
This post was edited on 1/18/24 at 12:04 am
Posted on 1/18/24 at 6:47 am to Tw1st3d
I’m in agreement with this unless we inherited some experienced secondary which I think we might.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 6:57 am to CrimsonBoz
If Bama gives up 32 ppg they’re not going 10-2 and if they go 10-2 they’re making the playoffs.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 7:30 am to JIB
i'm guessing bama goes 10-2 gets ranked 12th and gets left out of the playoffs in favor of the highest ranked g5 team. much like oklahoma this year. we could've had oklahoma vs oregon. but because of all the whining to get the g5 represented, we ended up with liberty vs oregon. a beautiful game i must say, not!
Posted on 1/18/24 at 7:49 am to Tw1st3d
I think this all makes a lot of sense, but also assumes good QB play. That's my biggest concern for the season, will we see a major improvement in ability to make the right decisions in a timely manner and execute at that position? Time will tell, and it seems like we hired the right staff to maximize the potential there. I'm excited for the future despite all the gloom and doom in the past 24 hours.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 7:54 am to omegadown3
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That's my biggest concern for the season, will we see a major improvement in ability to make the right decisions in a timely manner and execute at that position?
Absolutely. Bama has good QBs on roster. JMO but a new coach taking on this program is not going to hamstring himself with loyalty to upper class men that can’t get the job done. He’s going to play the best QB that will get the job done. If Milroe improves and in the best he will get the nod if he can’t figure it out and gets passed in the spring he will likely transfer out. Same goes for the rest of the QBs.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 8:23 am to labamafan
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Bama has good QBs on roster.
i do believe this singular decision will impact next season more than anything else. next season's schedule doesnt bode well for milroe if he doesn't grow by leaps and bounds. especially trying to run the deboer/grubb offense.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 8:29 am to Tw1st3d
You guys are being crazy optimistic at this point.
New offensive and defensive systems, with basically all new starters on the majority of the team.
Next year is a transition year. If he goes 9-3, that would be an amazing job
New offensive and defensive systems, with basically all new starters on the majority of the team.
Next year is a transition year. If he goes 9-3, that would be an amazing job
Posted on 1/18/24 at 8:32 am to UltimaParadox
That’s a realistic attitude but there are people on this forum who will fight you that his job should be in jeopardy if he isn’t in “The Dance: Football Version.”
Posted on 1/18/24 at 8:37 am to UltimaParadox
If it was a regular schedule with divisions, it would be a lot easier. The problem is that the SEC office clearly prioritized a bunch of marquee matchups for its standard bearer, Alabama, and its recent darling, Georgia. Those two teams have brutal schedules.
Meanwhile they want to ensure a smooth onboarding process for new breadwinner Texas, so they gave them one ranked conference game outside of their required tie with Oklahoma.
Byrne also did DeBoer no favors because moving forward Alabama will have two major out of conference opponents every season, the only team in America doing that.
Meanwhile they want to ensure a smooth onboarding process for new breadwinner Texas, so they gave them one ranked conference game outside of their required tie with Oklahoma.
Byrne also did DeBoer no favors because moving forward Alabama will have two major out of conference opponents every season, the only team in America doing that.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 8:42 am to CrimsonCrusade
If we can get good QB play then who knows…anyone remember Sark with Bama talent? Unstoppable offense.
I’m praying it might look similar under DeBoer and Grubb.
I’m praying it might look similar under DeBoer and Grubb.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 8:52 am to EGO3x
If Bama goes 10-2 they're in.
Let's assume Bama loses to the 2 best teams on this schedule
Western Kentucky
Wisconsin
Georgia
Vanderbilt
South Carolina
Tennessee
Missouri
LSU
Mercer
Oklahoma
Auburn
So Bama would lose to UGA and LSU but beat Tennessee, Mizzou (who may be ranked higher than LSU in the preseason) and Oklahoma who are all preseason top 25 teams. Plus winning at Wisconsin and beating AU.
Zero chance a Bama team that has beaten that many good teams gets left out. Zero.
Let's assume Bama loses to the 2 best teams on this schedule
Western Kentucky
Wisconsin
Georgia
Vanderbilt
South Carolina
Tennessee
Missouri
LSU
Mercer
Oklahoma
Auburn
So Bama would lose to UGA and LSU but beat Tennessee, Mizzou (who may be ranked higher than LSU in the preseason) and Oklahoma who are all preseason top 25 teams. Plus winning at Wisconsin and beating AU.
Zero chance a Bama team that has beaten that many good teams gets left out. Zero.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 8:53 am to Tw1st3d
You think we’re gonna give up 32ppg??
Posted on 1/18/24 at 8:59 am to HighTide_ATL
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You think we’re gonna give up 32ppg??
Bama's 2024 opponents and their PPG in 2023.
Western Kentucky - 30.5 (45th)
USF - 31.9 (33rd)
Wisconsin - 23.5 (92nd)
Georgia - 40.1 (5th)
South Carolina - 26.0 (77th)
Tennessee - 31.8 (35th)
Missouri - 32.5 (29th)
LSU - 45.5 (1st)
Mercer - NA
Oklahoma - 41.7 (4th)
Auburn - 26.2 (72nd)
Bama has 6 opponents in the top 35 in scoring offense.
This post was edited on 1/18/24 at 9:03 am
Posted on 1/18/24 at 9:39 am to Gideon Swashbuckler
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Front 6 or 7 - better or worse? I think it will be close to a push.
Push
The optimist in me says yes but... The realist thinks this will be worse off.
I don't see that we have that talent.
When Dallas came in..he didn't leave the field. I don't know that we have anyone that will do that. Throw in Braswell Egboigbe(sp?). That's a lot of the production from the front 7 lost. I worry about the D. But this isn't 10 yrs ago..where you could destroy people... It's an offensive minded game and I think the Offense will help the D at least for now
Posted on 1/18/24 at 10:40 am to UltimaParadox
quote:Washington was 4-8 the year before DeBoer took over, they won 11 games with the same players plus Penix the next season. We would have to lose a lot more players before our talent level is down where Washington was
You guys are being crazy optimistic at this point.
New offensive and defensive systems, with basically all new starters on the majority of the team.
Next year is a transition year. If he goes 9-3, that would be an amazing job
This post was edited on 1/18/24 at 10:41 am
Posted on 1/18/24 at 10:54 am to narddogg81
I think our success in 2024 will hinge entirely on our offensive line.
Defense will take a step back initially, particularly in the secondary. I have hopes our front six / seven will be good to very good. A lot hinges on the progress made by guys like James Smith and Damon Payne, as well as how effectively we can transition to a four-man front. We need one of Robinson / Koht / Alexander / Keeley / Pierre to become an effective rush end for us, and good injury luck in our LB corps.
IF Domani Jackson can take one corner spot, and IF we get the CB from Washington, we'll be in decent shape in the secondary. Having Malachi back will help tremendously; he can serve as the field general back there.
We'll need the offense to shoulder the load as the defense gels, though, and that will require the offensive line to be VASTLY improved over 2023. Getting the center from Washington would be huge, and finding a good LT (either on the roster or through the portal) is a must.
Milroe will need to significantly improve his processing speed and his accuracy on short / intermediate throws and ACTUALLY TAKE THEM WHEN THEY'RE AVAILABLE. If he doesn't, I see Simpson (and possibly Lonergan) getting the starting role, and Milroe having a package to run as a change of pace.
I'm nervous about the defense, at least initially, but I'm excited about the potential of the offense -- assuming we can get our O-line squared away.
Defense will take a step back initially, particularly in the secondary. I have hopes our front six / seven will be good to very good. A lot hinges on the progress made by guys like James Smith and Damon Payne, as well as how effectively we can transition to a four-man front. We need one of Robinson / Koht / Alexander / Keeley / Pierre to become an effective rush end for us, and good injury luck in our LB corps.
IF Domani Jackson can take one corner spot, and IF we get the CB from Washington, we'll be in decent shape in the secondary. Having Malachi back will help tremendously; he can serve as the field general back there.
We'll need the offense to shoulder the load as the defense gels, though, and that will require the offensive line to be VASTLY improved over 2023. Getting the center from Washington would be huge, and finding a good LT (either on the roster or through the portal) is a must.
Milroe will need to significantly improve his processing speed and his accuracy on short / intermediate throws and ACTUALLY TAKE THEM WHEN THEY'RE AVAILABLE. If he doesn't, I see Simpson (and possibly Lonergan) getting the starting role, and Milroe having a package to run as a change of pace.
I'm nervous about the defense, at least initially, but I'm excited about the potential of the offense -- assuming we can get our O-line squared away.
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