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re: Tommy Rees is our new offensive coordinator

Posted on 1/25/23 at 9:29 am to
Posted by BamaFan107
Madison
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 1/25/23 at 9:29 am to
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Saban's two worst OCs have both been NFL guys in Daboll and BoB.


Daboll was held back but you could see what he was capable of with Tua
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 9:30 am to
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Theoretically it could be over a month before we know if Johnson lands an OC job in the NFL.

Theoretically, Johnson could've already told CNS he wants the Bama OC gig.
This post was edited on 1/25/23 at 9:32 am
Posted by IB4bama
Pelham
Member since Oct 2017
1978 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 9:38 am to
Daboll--NC and we still hate on him.

And really Bob was handicapped by two O lines that just were not that good. And he scored 40 points vs the GA team in the SEC championship game. That Ga defense was loaded with talent. We just had too many players hurt the second time (offense and defense) to win the championship. This year if our QB had not gotten hurt we still would have likely made the playoffs, but doubtful we would beat Ga. Our interior D line and O line were just not physical enough. Somewhere Saban has some responsibility in how we practice.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21697 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 9:46 am to
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Bob was handicapped


Agreed. But, not by lack of talent.

It's funny how much better the talent just happens to coincidentally be when we have better coaches.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
15111 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 9:50 am to
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Theoretically, Johnson could've already told CNS he wants the Bama OC gig.

True, and that might be the case. But he is actively interviewing for NFL OC spots so he seems to have interest there as well.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
5945 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 9:53 am to
I don’t care for BOB but people gotta accept that this team was soft along the trenches on both sides of the ball.
Posted by CamAquatic
Member since Jan 2023
48 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 9:55 am to
2021’s OL wasn’t good, but 2022 was and I can’t understand how some people can sit there and really think it wasn’t. We were 4th in Yards Per Carry and 45th in Sacks Allowed Per Game, with a decent percentage of the sacks that did happen being because Bryce developed a bad habit of bailing from the pocket when he wasn’t pressured.

And before someone says 45th isn’t good, the coveted 2012 OL was 47th in that same category. The only 2 seasons where we ranked top 10 in that category since 2009? 2018 and 2019.
Posted by GoatHenry
Member since Dec 2021
76 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 9:59 am to
OLine was vastly better run blocking could get a little consistency but Wolf is a great coach. You got to remember this group talent wise did not have a first round pick at left tackle had a lot of young guys playing and had returnees from last years group which did not perform well.let the man recruit and it will be a monster unit.
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
Nick Fairley Fan Club, Founder
Member since Nov 2009
35446 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 10:14 am to
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True, and that might be the case. But he is actively interviewing for NFL OC spots so he seems to have interest there as well.


I haven't seen anything connecting Bama to Johnson, or Johnson to any team outside of the NFL. It's been speculative articles only by beat writers pulling names from anywhere, whereas yeah he's actively interviewing for NFL OC jobs.

He's been a college OC, I don't think you take a step back when clearly there's interest in you in the NFL. He may not land an OC job this year, but it bodes well enough for him the following year. Some have even talked about him being a HC candidate.
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
This side of eternity
Member since Jun 2016
10061 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 10:25 am to
quote:

And really Bob was handicapped by two O lines that just were not that good.


No, he wasn't.

I'll give you his first year. The Oline was terrible, specifically at RT.

This year, BoB’s problems were:
Playcalling
Playcalling was too predictable
Consistently abandoned the running game leading to no balance.
Had multiple receivers in the same area allowing one defender to cover multiple people.
Bryce’s injury (Throwing the ball 51 times against LSU is incomprehensible.)
Bryce feeling the need to always make big plays because our offense was such a cluster.
Receivers starting that should have never seen the field. This got better as the year went on.
Terrible clock management. This is also on Saban. (Not running the ball at the end of the UTk game is as bad as Golding running a 1-5-5.)
Posted by alabamabuckeye
Member since Jun 2010
22206 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 10:36 am to
I really need some fricking breaking news on either an OC or DC. This waiting is painful.
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9447 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 11:43 am to
It depends on if Johnson wants to be a college or NFL head coach. Either avenue is going to be available to him soon.
Posted by IB4bama
Pelham
Member since Oct 2017
1978 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 12:06 pm to
after our QB got hurt, we were definitely handicapped. I think our substitute qb had a third of our turnovers. Even after our QB came back, he was erratic for several games.
If you compare this years players to the last NC team (with our great OC), its just not close.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
24942 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 12:15 pm to
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And he scored 40 points vs the GA team in the SEC championship game.


I admit I'm not some offensive x and o expert, but more often than not the last couple of years I ended each game thinking "thank God Bryce Young is a freaking magician out there because he continuously saved our arse from play calling and/or execution that was not working."

To this layperson it just looked like BoB's offense did absolutely nothing to create schematic mismatches or confuse the defense. A lot of times that was fine because Alabama's athletes just flat out beat their man or (as mentioned) Bryce Young just made something happen anyway. But everything just looked so hard and like the offensive game plan and play calling was neutral to net-negative compared to what I say other offensive coordinators doing. Lack of motion, lack of tempo, lack of creativity in formations, lack of rythym in the play calling, etc.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
5945 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

2021’s OL wasn’t good, but 2022 was and I can’t understand how some people can sit there and really think it wasn’t. We were 4th in Yards Per Carry and 45th in Sacks Allowed Per Game, with a decent percentage of the sacks that did happen being because Bryce developed a bad habit of bailing from the pocket when he wasn’t pressured. And before someone says 45th isn’t good, the coveted 2012 OL was 47th in that same category. The only 2 seasons where we ranked top 10 in that category since 2009? 2018 and 2019


Sorta reminds me of the 2018 OL. Ostensibly a good unit, but they couldn’t get a tough yard whenever it was absolutely needed. Team was just absolutely dogshit on 4th and short.

2022 line is similar. They did some things well but they didn’t have a mean streak. We had way too many ineffective runs where they just didn’t get movement or missed on a pull assignment. Our per yard average was hoisted up by Gibbs and McClellan’s explosiveness when it did get blocked right.
Posted by hwnd
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Member since Apr 2010
8114 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 12:39 pm to
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Had multiple receivers in the same area allowing one defender to cover multiple people
This pissed me off so badly. At first, I thought it was the receivers being out of place. Then I noticed it looked schemed. BoB played himself.
Posted by tideohio
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2015
178 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 1:01 pm to
Elposter couldn't have summed it up any better.
Posted by WW
Member since Dec 2013
2290 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 1:03 pm to
You think O'Brien, who by track record is a successful and respected play caller, schemed for 2 pass catchers to be in the same spot?
Posted by WW
Member since Dec 2013
2290 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 1:04 pm to
Young made many calls at the line. Folks here said he was checking out of stupid shite, but I never saw a correlation with his checks and success.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52734 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 1:05 pm to
quote:

, lack of tempo,


this was the most annoying to me. It seems like every time we were forced to up tempo, when we needed a score, our offense was just about unstoppable. Watching Bryce run hurry-up was a thing of beauty.

But for most of the game we would take the entire playclock to snap the ball. Maddening.
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