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re: Tide Football Thread in honor of TidalSurge
Posted on 4/8/24 at 4:15 pm to RollTide33
Posted on 4/8/24 at 4:15 pm to RollTide33
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You're outside your mind if you think Saban let anyone, let alone the players, dictate to him who was going to be the starter at any position.
Exactly, I'm over here wondering do these guys understand the coach their talking about and who he really is lol.
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Posted on 4/8/24 at 4:25 pm to qman91
You mean the coach who walked with BLM . Come on Saban got softer these last few years. Not because he really wanted to. I think he was just trying to evolve with this new generation of players, until he just couldn't take it anymore.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 4:33 pm to Bamadog75
If you want to keep shite non political and keep stuff from going off the hinges for 12 pages then don’t post things like the above. No good will come of it and it will embarrass the state and the university
Posted on 4/8/24 at 5:09 pm to Sandkhan
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If you want to keep shite non political and keep stuff from going off the hinges for 12 pages then don’t post things like the above. No good will come of it and it will embarrass the state and the university
Exactly, as if any of that stuff factors into a coach's decision.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 5:39 pm to Bamadog75
Deleted due to Sandkhan's point.
But also Bamadog75 is a fricking idiot
But also Bamadog75 is a fricking idiot
This post was edited on 4/8/24 at 5:57 pm
Posted on 4/8/24 at 7:14 pm to qman91
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Exactly, I'm over here wondering do these guys understand the coach their talking about and who he really is lol.
Some of y'all truly have a remarkable ability to ignore the fact Nick Saban was not the same coach in 2023 that he was from 2007 to 2020.
It's incredible.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 7:21 pm to TideSaint
I'm not the same person I was in 2007 too. Crazy.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 7:23 pm to TideSaint
And they ignored what we all saw at USF. People in this thread acknowledge that certain players wanted Milroe and in the same breath say he didn't play favorites. Saban is not above criticism.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 7:30 pm to Fells
Yeah I'm the idiot. You must not have watched the last few years of bama football if you think Saban was the same. He wasn't the same mean arse coach. Maybe it was because he was older or having grandkids I don't know but he got softer the team got softer too. I'm not blaming coach for that time gets everyone. I think he tried to coach different and evolve with society but he just got tired of it saw where it was leading and said peace out.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 7:39 pm to Diego Ricardo
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I'm not the same person I was in 2007 too. Crazy.
I was 17 years younger.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 7:39 pm to Bamadog75
I don’t think there is an issue with acknowledging he was a softer and more gentle coach. I think he was that for a few years.
I think where we veer off the path is by assuming 2008 Nick Saban wouldn’t have also supported his players if they were trying to deal with social issues. He didn’t “try to adapt” in that manner because he was always that guy. Even the mean arse old Saban was there for his players in multiple instances and bringing up the March as an example is the type of thing that will have the shite kickers out in full force on their break from cooking fries at Jacks.
I think where we veer off the path is by assuming 2008 Nick Saban wouldn’t have also supported his players if they were trying to deal with social issues. He didn’t “try to adapt” in that manner because he was always that guy. Even the mean arse old Saban was there for his players in multiple instances and bringing up the March as an example is the type of thing that will have the shite kickers out in full force on their break from cooking fries at Jacks.
This post was edited on 4/8/24 at 7:42 pm
Posted on 4/8/24 at 7:41 pm to Bamadog75
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Maybe it was because he was older or having grandkids
It's the grandkids.
Parents can be mean as frick to their children, but let a grand baby enter the picture and even the coldest of hearts will melt.
I don't blame Saban for it, but ignoring it is just stupid.
He got soft. It happens.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 7:44 pm to Sandkhan
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I think where we veer off the path is by assuming 2008 Nick Saban wouldn’t have also supported his players if they were trying to deal with social issues.
We didn't have social media in 2008 like we did in 2020, either.
Things weren't much different from a social issue perspective between 2008 and 2020.
The difference was the medium used and how quickly it reached the masses.
2008 Saban had the luxury of thinking things through over weeks before making a decision as opposed to hours.
It's easy to be right 99% of the time when you have time to prepare.
This post was edited on 4/8/24 at 7:46 pm
Posted on 4/8/24 at 7:54 pm to TideSaint
In 2008 there wasn’t a viral video of a man being killed by police in broad daylight that sparked a country full of protests but if there were I think Saban would’ve supported his players during that time.
It’s true that not much has changed societally, but 2020 is when our team and a lot of the country decided to protest and Saban supported them. I believe he’d have done that in 2012 if circumstances were different. He definitely did get older and softer but I don’t think supporting his players during that time is an example of that at all.
It’s true that not much has changed societally, but 2020 is when our team and a lot of the country decided to protest and Saban supported them. I believe he’d have done that in 2012 if circumstances were different. He definitely did get older and softer but I don’t think supporting his players during that time is an example of that at all.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 8:10 pm to Sandkhan
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In 2008 there wasn’t a viral video of a man overdosed on fentanyl in broad daylight that sparked a country full of protests but if there were I think Saban would’ve supported his players during that time.
FIFY
Posted on 4/8/24 at 8:11 pm to Sandkhan
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In 2008 there wasn’t a viral video of a man being killed by police
There wasn't video of that from 2020 either.
Unless I missed the police injecting George Floyd with fentanyl and meth.
One literally can't scream "I can't breath" if they can't breath. It is anatomically impossible.
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It’s true that not much has changed societally, but 2020 is when our team and a lot of the country decided to protest and Saban supported them. I believe he’d have done that in 2012 if circumstances were different. He definitely did get older and softer but I don’t think supporting his players during that time is an example of that at all.
This proves my point.
Even in 2012 the social media machine wasn't nearly as robust as 2020. Trayvon Martin was killed that year. Saban didn't say a word. Weird, huh?
This post was edited on 4/8/24 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 4/8/24 at 8:15 pm to Ten Bears
I’m not doing this stupid bullshite yall. I actively tried to avoid any type of political discussion because i sincerely don’t find any value in this type of discussion with these types of people.
I simply asked that we avoid veering into politically adjacent bullshite in the fricking football thread and there was no real need for it to become a Fox News echo chamber to say Saban had started to soften with age.
But go off I guess
I simply asked that we avoid veering into politically adjacent bullshite in the fricking football thread and there was no real need for it to become a Fox News echo chamber to say Saban had started to soften with age.
But go off I guess
Posted on 4/8/24 at 8:17 pm to TideSaint
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Even in 2012 the social media machine wasn't nearly as robust as 2020. Trayvon Martin was killed that year. Saban didn't say a word. Weird, huh?
Our team didn’t organize a protest. Much of the country didn’t. They probably should’ve.
That also wasn’t police but was a single moron playing neighborhood watch. Apples and Oranges. But if our team would’ve protested then I believe he would’ve been there with them. But what do I know
This post was edited on 4/8/24 at 8:29 pm
Posted on 4/8/24 at 8:20 pm to Sandkhan
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Our team didn’t organize a protest.
I could have understood it more if they had. They certainly had more in common with a teenager with no rap sheet than marching for a career criminal who once held a loaded gun to a pregnant woman's stomach as he assaulted and robbed her.
But again, social media didn't have that presence in 2012 so it wasn't the cool thing to do.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 8:20 pm to Sandkhan
Wanna talk some religion?
Innocent joke, not trolling you
Innocent joke, not trolling you
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