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Saban's "Rip-Liz-Match"
Posted on 12/13/16 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 12/13/16 at 4:55 pm
often written about...can any knowledgeable Tide fan answer
these questions:
-Does Saban still use this concept?
-Was it ever used it as his base defense or was it strictly a change-up?
-What are Bama's primary coverages now?
these questions:
-Does Saban still use this concept?
-Was it ever used it as his base defense or was it strictly a change-up?
-What are Bama's primary coverages now?
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Posted on 12/13/16 at 4:57 pm to Bill2467
That doesn't look like anything to me
Posted on 12/13/16 at 5:06 pm to Bill2467
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often written about...can any knowledgeable Tide fan answer these questions: -Does Saban still use this concept? -Was it ever used it as his base defense or was it strictly a change-up? -What are Bama's primary coverages now?
Best of luck in the Peach Bowl, Chris. Looks like you're going to need it.
Posted on 12/13/16 at 5:24 pm to Bill2467
It depends on the set. Its not 'base' in a general sense. Its a call.
Basically with the personnel Bama runs, there is always a hybrid that is on the field so they rarely have an issue with matching. Pruitt has simplified the calls a bit, and they don't have as many defensive sets as sat three years ago.
Basically with the personnel Bama runs, there is always a hybrid that is on the field so they rarely have an issue with matching. Pruitt has simplified the calls a bit, and they don't have as many defensive sets as sat three years ago.
Posted on 12/13/16 at 5:58 pm to Bill2467
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Posted on 12/13/16 at 6:47 pm to Bill2467
I thought rip and Liz calls were used primarily as identifying the strong side where your Mike, SDT, RDE and Bandit (or whatever terminology a team uses) would shift to? Our little team here in Prairieville uses this terminology but we run a 4-2-5. I didn't think colleges used this. It's so simplistic in nature. Lol
Posted on 12/13/16 at 7:08 pm to labamafan
That is the identifier. Whether you shift or not is dependent on scheme. In general in Saban's cover 3 shell it would tell the linebackers who was under, and which side coverage matched.
I think his defense has evolved a bit since I really studied it,but the general concepts are the same.
I think his defense has evolved a bit since I really studied it,but the general concepts are the same.
Posted on 12/13/16 at 8:51 pm to doghouse_4x4
For a woman, I feel like I sit at an above level of knowledge when it comes to football.
Then I read threads like this and I feel like the girl at the game asking her date "If a field goal is worth three points how come an extra point is just worth one point? They're the same thing!!!".
Then I read threads like this and I feel like the girl at the game asking her date "If a field goal is worth three points how come an extra point is just worth one point? They're the same thing!!!".
Posted on 12/13/16 at 9:12 pm to Bill2467
I think this has to do with dropping a safety down to cover flat and curl routes. The call alerts the linebackers this is happening. I don't think they use it much any more because they play a lot more nickel than 3-4 now.
Posted on 12/13/16 at 9:19 pm to Bill2467
It has to do with identifying what defense to move into. Basically a call. So let's say the personnel on the field consists of what you would want for a 3-4 and a team splits an extra 2 guy's out, but can't substitute because the offense didn't. You would take the OLB's and have them play a zone outside the tackles against a TE or WR. That call would change what the secondary does because of the concept Saban uses called "in phase, out of phase" where if the DB sees the receivers back or front jersey. If the DB can see the front of his jersey, he is in phase and can play the ball. If he is out of phase, then he plays the receiver. That's why everyone gets so pissy when "he didn't turn his fricking head around"
This post was edited on 12/13/16 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 12/13/16 at 9:20 pm to BamaChick
Don't fret BamaChick, I didn't know what in the flying frick nugget "Rip-Liz-Match" meant either. But I'm learning something reading this thread
Posted on 12/13/16 at 9:22 pm to South Alabama Tide
Most people would say you are going from a cover 2 to a cover 3. More zones
Posted on 12/13/16 at 10:03 pm to South Alabama Tide
You end up with one safety and the two corners high, the outside linebackers in the flats, and one safety and the middle linebackers underneath. This used to happen all the time with Sunseri being the safety coming down. It seemed like a lot of teams would hit a pass right over him.
Posted on 12/13/16 at 11:17 pm to TomRollTideRitter
Yeah box safety. AKA mark Barron. Cover 3.
But you would use that call to go out of a dime set to go to a 3-3-5 stack nickel. You're bumping the extra safety up for run support/pass option out of the backfield. It forces the ILB's to plug the gaps. Ronnie Harrison has those current respsonilities.
But you would use that call to go out of a dime set to go to a 3-3-5 stack nickel. You're bumping the extra safety up for run support/pass option out of the backfield. It forces the ILB's to plug the gaps. Ronnie Harrison has those current respsonilities.
This post was edited on 12/13/16 at 11:33 pm
Posted on 12/14/16 at 9:22 am to labamafan
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I thought rip and Liz calls were used primarily as identifying the strong side where your Mike, SDT, RDE and Bandit (or whatever terminology a team uses) would shift to?
Rip being right and Liz being left. My team used Roger and Lucky in that same capacity.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 1:26 pm to Bill2467
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Rip-Liz-Match
Is that some sort of Sammich bag?
Posted on 12/14/16 at 10:20 pm to doghouse_4x4
Yes, from what I've read Pruitt has simplified the scheme.
Has them blitzing more than recent years.
Has them blitzing more than recent years.
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