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Saban comments on the offense post-Texas

Posted on 9/11/22 at 11:08 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 9/11/22 at 11:08 am
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“Well, we didn’t block them very well up front. Didn’t protect very well. Got pressure in the pocket. Wasn’t very effective throwing the ball. Didn’t get people open. Probably need to do a better job from a planning standpoint the way they played us. So it all comes down to executing." 

This post was edited on 9/11/22 at 11:09 am
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15178 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 11:16 am to
This is all the players fault man. Obviously Saban didn't hire an offensive coordinator to coordinate his offense.

He expects these teenagers and early 20s to coordinate themselves and build entire gameplans for execution.
Posted by Bamadave68
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2011
108 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 11:34 am to
Fingers pointed right at BOB. No creativity or imagination. He better have a long talk with BOB. We have too much talent to look this crappy! Period.
Posted by TD7
Member since Jul 2019
919 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 11:36 am to
I agree with you, however I think he needs to get into the arse of the entire coaching staff. That was all around one of the worst piss poor gameplan/performances I've seen since he's been here.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15178 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 11:41 am to
It's not just the gameplan. He sucks at playcalling.

I had a coordinator who was a savant at building gameplans but nutted up GameDay on calling the right plays because he just sucked at that game of "chess".

BOB sucks at both.
Posted by TiderNAL
Member since Nov 2010
7187 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 1:40 pm to
I get the impression that CNS is much less hands-on with his assistants than he was in years past. It isn’t working out so well.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26956 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 1:49 pm to
I want someone at his Thursday show to ask him why we don't put the QB under center on 4th and less than a yard. Why is it that it was successful to put A'Shawn Robinson and Jonathan Allen behind Jake Coker in 2015, but it wouldn't be successful today? Do we even have one play in the playbook with the QB under center?
Posted by BeltwayTide
Washington, DC
Member since Sep 2018
810 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 1:55 pm to
I’m confused. Does CNS just show up on game day to find out what plans the OC has?

Posted by LG2BAMA
Texas
Member since Dec 2015
1180 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 2:32 pm to
Everyone else puts together a game plan to attack us. Seems like our game plan is to just react to theirs.
Posted by PowHound
The Peoples Moderator
Member since Jul 2014
6843 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 2:53 pm to
Everything that has been wrong since BoB and his buddy that fricked up the OL showed up in TTown was on display Saturday, but nothing was a better example than -

4th and 1, up by 1 on the road with a couple minutes left- defense been saving the day all day:

1. Kick the FG take the 3, force Texas to score TD on a great D to beat ya

2. If you gonna go then do not hand ball off six yards deep to THE FRICKEN THIRD STRING RB

Thats one of the more hard to explain moments from a management perspective I can recall under Saban. At that moment we were trying to lose.

Jase, Gibbs, or Young gotta have the ball there.

Last year Bama had two elite WR this year none. (Bond, Tyler, and AAnderson could provide speed) Burton is a possession guy.

The OL is a mess- least talented bunch we've had under Nick including 08




Posted by Syd
Member since Sep 2012
2964 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 4:28 pm to
If you’ve got less than a yard, qb sneak the ball, 90% of the time you’ll get a first down, if not more.
Posted by rgw
Member since Oct 2013
183 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 7:59 pm to
The biggest difference between Sark and BOB imo:

O'Brien's offense it is predicated on the players executing at a high level consistently to succeed. He's a very "NFL coach" playcaller

Sarkisian's offense is predicated on the very fact that his players cannot be expected to always execute at a high level - consequently neither can the other team's players - so he schemes plays built on creating busts where the player doesn't have to execute precisely to get open in the throw game.

Obviously, Alabama is playing college ball so a pro style playcaller may not be best.
Posted by Hater Bait
Tuscaloosa & Gulf Shores
Member since Nov 2012
2870 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 11:09 pm to
I wish BoB had promised only one season to Coach Saban. He is terrible, and I don’t criticize staff often, Bill is just here for the check.
Posted by UltimaParadox
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2008
40839 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 11:24 pm to
Clearly calling out BoB
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11454 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 11:29 pm to
quote:

I want someone at his Thursday show to ask him why we don't put the QB under center on 4th and less than a yard. Why is it that it was successful to put A'Shawn Robinson and Jonathan Allen behind Jake Coker in 2015, but it wouldn't be successful today? Do we even have one play in the playbook with the QB under center?


I have heard that Bryce is uncomfortable getting under center, which isn’t ideal, but ok, he’s probably not the best choice for a QB sneak at 5’10” and maybe 200 lbs soaking wet. However, we have a manchild backing him up in Jalen Milroe and we should have a short yardage/goal line package with Milroe under center, Jaheim Oatis at H back and Gibbs at tailback. If Milroe doesn’t keep it, Oatis plows the row for Gibbs and it ought to be easy to get a yard.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42237 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:37 am to
quote:

The biggest difference between Sark and BOB imo:

O'Brien's offense it is predicated on the players executing at a high level consistently to succeed. He's a very "NFL coach" playcaller

Sarkisian's offense is predicated on the very fact that his players cannot be expected to always execute at a high level - consequently neither can the other team's players - so he schemes plays built on creating busts where the player doesn't have to execute precisely to get open in the throw game.

Obviously, Alabama is playing college ball so a pro style playcaller may not be best.

This. Guys like Sark, Kiffin and Locksley called plays designed to take advantage of weaknesses in a defense, create confusion for a defense, and thus create opportunities for the offense. Their schemes and playcalling helped hide issues with the offense, as well.

O'Brien's schemes and playcalling depend on the offense executing very well all of the time. The offensive line has to provide a QB with the opportunity to go through progressions during the play, rather than letting the QB essentially go through his reads pre-snap. O'Brien doesn't create confusion for a defense. He depends on Alabama players executing well every play and being better than the defenders on every play.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:39 am to
He also clearly said "didn't get people open" not "people didn't get open", which are 2 very different things.

One implies the players fault and the other the scheme/play.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:41 am to
quote:

He's a very 2006 "NFL coach" playcaller


FIFY because that's not even the NFL norm anymore. Kentucky runs the NFL norm new offense, which is entirely predicated on matchups (Shanahan/McVay).

The stuff BoB does is from the 2000s NFL that almost nobody runs anymore.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11833 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:06 am to
quote:

O'Brien's offense it is predicated on the players executing at a high level consistently to succeed. He's a very "NFL coach" playcaller


I tend to agree and Sark knew what to expect. Challenge us at making the play by applying pressure constantly. It was disruptive for out offense and it showed.

Our defense he showed why he is a great OC.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26956 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:08 am to
quote:

I have heard that Bryce is uncomfortable getting under center,


Maybe so.

Isn't that what practice is for?
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