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re: Robert Foster is a beast.

Posted on 4/24/15 at 8:48 am to
Posted by Swm323
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Posted on 4/24/15 at 8:48 am to
Foster himself said that his attitude was not right last year. It looks like he has figured it out though. White had a lot of big plays for us last year.
Posted by UAFanFromNOLA
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Posted on 4/24/15 at 8:56 am to
I'm done predicting big things for OJ Howard. The kid has all-world talent, but for whatever reason hasn't put everything together.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 4/24/15 at 9:18 am to
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Which makes me hate our seniority thing with Saban even more. No way White should have started over this kid. We should have done more to develop the kids understanding of the system earlier instead of wasting reps (sorry to be so blunt).

I know this kid would have caught that first down catch late in the 2nd quarter against Ohio St, which White dropped, and led to a punt which led to their 1 minute touchdown drive.


Come on man, that is massive hypothetical. Deandrew is a talented guy in his own right and had a good career at Bama even through multiple injuries, and he will likely be playing in the league.
Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 4/24/15 at 9:38 am to
Yep. And Cam Sims worked his way into the rotation last year as a true freshman though mainly as a blocker. I'm not questioning Foster's talent at all. I think he's a legitimate 5 star talent. Just saying that his lack of PT last year probably had very little to do with seniority.
Posted by RT1941
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Posted on 4/24/15 at 2:02 pm to
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Kiffin is gonna have a couple of toys to play with this fall with Foster and Drake.
Indeed!
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 4/24/15 at 3:20 pm to
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Just saying that his lack of PT last year probably had very little to do with seniority.


It had everything to do with seniority. He saw he was better than White, but White started and played. He obviously didn't handle it well with a bad attitude.

If not for seniority, White never starts a game last season over Foster. Hell CJ never starts a game over Black/Stewart.

CJ was fumbling left and right, did Saban every completely drop him from receiving kicks?? He struggled for a while to make an impact there and Saban never budged.

We have talent that can fill that role, but Saban wouldn't budge. I guess that has nothing to do with anything too.
This post was edited on 4/24/15 at 3:27 pm
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 4/24/15 at 3:25 pm to
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Come on man, that is massive hypothetical. Deandrew is a talented guy in his own right and had a good career at Bama even through multiple injuries, and he will likely be playing in the league.


Nothing in this post disagrees with the thought that Foster was a better player/talent than White; but was made to play behind White who got all the reps.

I mean, you realize this kid almost transferred right? While some may think these kids are dumb, they aren't. When they know they're better than the guy in front of them yet they get no reps in practice and watch from the bench, some don't take it well.

Foster obviously didn't and Saban punished him early in the season by pushing him further back.

This only occurs due to Saban's love for seniority. Period.

In some ways I can't even blame Foster for being pissed. I was asking myself all season how a kid JUST as good if not better than Laquan Treadwell can't even touch the field. People want to feed themselves with lies, but I won't. Saban is amazing, but he is human; nothing is perfect under the sun.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 4/24/15 at 3:30 pm to
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Nothing in this post disagrees with the thought that Foster was a better player/talent than White; but was made to play behind White who got all the reps.



Maybe he is, maybe he isn't. Lets wait until Foster actually does something outside of practice before we crown him the next big thing.

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While some may think these kids are dumb, they aren't.


No one is saying the Foster is dumb...


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When they know they're better than the guy in front of them yet they get no reps in practice and watch from the bench, some don't take it well.


You have no idea how many reps Foster got in practice last year. None of us do.

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Foster obviously didn't and Saban punished him early in the season by pushing him further back.




Again, where is there anything about Saban punishing Foster?

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I was asking myself all season how a kid JUST as good if not better than Laquan Treadwell can't even touch the field




good lord man, he had a good spring game, but please, lets calm down!
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 4/24/15 at 4:32 pm to
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Maybe he is, maybe he isn't. Lets wait until Foster actually does something outside of practice before we crown him the next big thing.


He has. Not my fault you didn't notice or watch the game he played well last season.

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You have no idea how many reps Foster got in practice last year. None of us do.


Absolutely silly response. He obviously didn't get many reps because anyone who actually played college football knows starters get the lion share.

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Again, where is there anything about Saban punishing Foster?


Do you need everything spelled out to you?

Go look it up. Saban even commented on the difference in him early season and later, even talking about him getting more work.

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good lord man, he had a good spring game, but please, lets calm down!


I have always held this stance, it isn't because of a spring game so you fail on this point as well.

You literally providing nothing that states Saban didn't use seniority in this situation. I even provided examples of other players like C.Jones.

Actually defend your stance with facts, if not I won't bother to respond.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 4/24/15 at 4:47 pm to
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He has. Not my fault you didn't notice or watch the game he played well last season.



Did he have a few catches against FIU or something? That's practice.


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He obviously didn't get many reps because anyone who actually played college football knows starters get the lion share.


So maybe he didn't make the best of the reps that he did get? Again, we don't really know.

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Go look it up. Saban even commented on the difference in him early season and later, even talking about him getting more work.



Okay? Just because he said that he was getting more work doesn't really mean anything as far as Saban not giving him a chance because he was young. Saban has shown time and time again that he is not afraid to play a true freshman, ESPECIALLY at the WR position. There could have been a million other reasons as to why he might not have gotten as many reps.

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I have always held this stance, it isn't because of a spring game so you fail on this point as well.

You literally providing nothing that states Saban didn't use seniority in this situation. I even provided examples of other players like C.Jones.

Actually defend your stance with facts,


what facts are YOU stating? That C. Jones got playing time over Foster? Jones actually got some meaningful playing time in the NC game as a true freshman, so your example is kind of crushing your argument. As far as last year, Jones is a great blocker, and does all of the small things right(except I will give you that he fumbled way too much.) That really has nothing to do with seniority.

Most of your argument is based on a bunch of conjecture about what you think you know goes in practice, and Fact: Saban plays true freshmen all the time. How can you contest that fact? Fact: Foster did NOTHING of note last year, even though you claim he did.

I'm not sure why you are getting so defensive about this. Its okay if we have differing opinions, you don't have to douche the thread up.

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if not I won't bother to respond.


bullshite.
This post was edited on 4/24/15 at 4:50 pm
Posted by Swm323
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Posted on 4/24/15 at 5:27 pm to
You are right, Mr. Foster, your son Robert should have played last year.
Posted by asphinctersayswhat
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Posted on 4/24/15 at 5:30 pm to
Saban preaches playing assignment football. If Foster was missing assignments in practice, why would Saban start him over a guy that understands the offense?

RF admitted that he wasn't doing all the right things to get on the field more. He seems to understand what is asked of him now and he will probably start.

Maybe you should be more upset that RF had the talent to be a first year starter but his ego was too large to allow it.

jmo
Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 4/24/15 at 5:35 pm to
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It had everything to do with seniority. He saw he was better than White, but White started and played. He obviously didn't handle it well with a bad attitude.


You're claiming that the lack of PT caused him to have a bad attitude. How do you know that he didn't come in with a bad attitude and that's what prevented him from getting more PT?

But like I said, I saw Cam Sims, a year younger than Foster, playing quite a bit more than Foster so you're not going to convince me that seniority is the primary reason he didn't play more. Ardarius Stewart who is in the same class as RF also played a lot more than RF. For the record, I do think RF is more talented than Sims or Stewart but you can't claim they played more due to seniority.
This post was edited on 4/24/15 at 10:39 pm
Posted by tidalmouse
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/24/15 at 7:59 pm to
Foster and Stewart showed out pretty good in the Fla. Atlantic game last Season.
Posted by Hulkamania Saban
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 4/24/15 at 8:47 pm to
Robert Foster may not ever be as good as Cooper or Julio, but one advantage the Foster will have is Cooper or Julio didn't have a player like Calvin Ridley lining up on the other side freeing him up.
Posted by Tide or Die87
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 4/24/15 at 8:51 pm to
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Robert Foster may not ever be as good as Cooper or Julio, but one advantage the Foster will have is Cooper or Julio didn't have a player like Calvin Ridley lining up on the other side freeing him up


+1
Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/24/15 at 9:05 pm to
You are the man. I was in the middle of an evidence final during this. Watching now.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 4/24/15 at 9:18 pm to
Stewart is legit too
Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
11354 posts
Posted on 4/24/15 at 9:53 pm to
Just from watching the game.

1. Foster has a catch radius that is insane.
2. Running on this front will be difficult.
3. If you run past the front Rueben will kill you.
3a. Rueben is not wearing the headless horseman neck brace. He might have learned how to tackle.
4. Stewart says go ahead and double Foster.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 4/24/15 at 10:32 pm to
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3. If you run past the front Rueben will kill you.



And Reggie
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