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re: Is the Bama NIL collective in bad shape?

Posted on 5/4/24 at 7:03 am to
Posted by gumpinmizzou
Member since May 2017
2885 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 7:03 am to
I give to the collective monthly, but I completely understand why others don’t.

I chose to give because I get a lot of joy and entertainment out of Alabama sports. Going to games and cheering on the athletes is something my family enjoys and does together, which is nice. And I believe that our athletic program can change kids lives for the better.

That being said, asking your average fan to fund the collective while also increasing tide pride and ticket prices and nickel and diming folks at the concession stand is not a sustainable model, and when the AD is worth hundreds of millions, I can see why a lot of people are turned off by that.

Collective bargaining needs to get here so we can move on from this current NIL era.
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
22421 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 4:19 pm to
The problem is NIL isn’t going away when revenue sharing starts. It won’t be as prominent or as important maybe, but NIL will continue on.
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
24389 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 9:13 pm to
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We also are not Georgia Tech. Come on.


Tech is my 2nd favorite, because my dad went there. And nope, were nowhere near being Tech. We've been getting the Saban discount, and are learning how thing have started working.

I think we're seeing a but of a bubble, since it's new wild West territory. Once they start running things through the schools instead of these bullshite collectives, you'll start to see things level out. But right now, there's a bunch of desperate, hungry boosters seeing an opportunity to hit levels they've never reached.
Posted by bamabonners
Alabama
Member since Nov 2015
2718 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 12:05 pm to
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There’s no way in hell I would ever waste $18 a month so some entitled college kid could come play football or basketball at Alabama.


Same. I'm already paying for my son's degree. No wait am I paying for some kid to make more money than I do, get a scholarship that he doesn't give a shite about, so he can play sports and finish his degree online (if he or she is Even doing it). These folks are also being gifted houses to stay in... Meanwhile, I'm also paying $800 a month for son to live there. Hard pass.

This is not what NIL was supposed to be.
This post was edited on 5/8/24 at 12:15 pm
Posted by MrMojoRisin
Udûn
Member since May 2014
7251 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 6:02 pm to
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The problem is NIL isn’t going away when revenue sharing starts. It won’t be as prominent or as important maybe, but NIL will continue on.


Unfortunately this until substantial changes are made.In the current political environment, any lawsuit to increases monetary flow or remove restrictions on “college” athlete's will succeed no matter what the implications.
Posted by AbSnopes
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2020
975 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 2:58 pm to
Revenue sharing, Saban’s plan and recommendation, will be here in a couple of years, and that will ease reliance on collectives. Of course boosters will still boost, as in the “keep it down home Cuz” days at Auburn, but the revenue sharing plan brings requirements for players- just like professional contracts.
Posted by newtonjg
Fayetteville NC
Member since Jan 2016
138 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 3:40 pm to
Question for those that do donate - Do you also donate to your high school? I am getting older and have the ability to donate a little bit. I love Bama sports but I do not feel compelled to donate but I do feel compelled to donate to my High School. Any one else feel this way?
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
6709 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 3:42 pm to
I think the thing with high school athletics donation and volunteerism is that many of those kids literally have no support and athletics is a way to get that kid engaged in school and become a man.
Posted by Sandkhan
Hells and Wilderness, Northeast MS
Member since Jun 2009
5810 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 3:50 pm to
quote:

Question for those that do donate - Do you also donate to your high school? I am getting older and have the ability to donate a little bit. I love Bama sports but I do not feel compelled to donate but I do feel compelled to donate to my High School. Any one else feel this way?


I’ll answer this for me: I donate to the Yea collective. I don’t donate to my highschool. And I guess for me that’s because I always grew up a fan of Alabama but I no longer live in my hometown and didn’t grow up a big fan of our local athletics team. I was an Alabama kid that moved to northeast Mississippi and just went to school there and played sports, but there was t and still isn’t a lot of local pride. the board of education there has never really leaned into that type of thing.


It’s weird. When I go back home I support local businesses but never really think about the high school and I haven’t gone back for a single home game since the last one I played in.
Posted by CrimsonCrusade
Member since Jan 2014
5331 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 6:57 pm to
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Average college football game is 3-4 hours. Times about 14 a year. I don’t know how old you are so let’s say you’ve been watching Alabama football for 20 years.

That’s about 980 hours. If you make $8 an hour that’s about 8 grand.


Eight grand over twenty years? Billionaire grindset.
Posted by Sandkhan
Hells and Wilderness, Northeast MS
Member since Jun 2009
5810 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 7:07 pm to
I think that’s my point.
Posted by Alfie Solomons
Alabama
Member since Aug 2020
1115 posts
Posted on 5/23/24 at 4:18 pm to
We need to get these millionaires playing in the NFL because of Alabama to make contributions first. That’s who they should be going after first. Pay it back homie. Then I’ll sign up for $20 a month.
Posted by Amarillo Tide
Amarillo, TX
Member since Aug 2023
638 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 12:34 pm to
I was looking at www.nil-ncaa and apparently, Bama is currently 5th in the SEC, behind Texas, LSU, Georgia and A&M. Supposedly, Tennessee is determined to be #1 and is frantically trying to come up with $25 million.
Posted by Sandkhan
Hells and Wilderness, Northeast MS
Member since Jun 2009
5810 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 12:59 pm to
They raise a lot of money recycling cans and plastic they pick up off the side of the road
Posted by UhOhOreo
Los Angeles
Member since Jul 2014
2530 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 1:49 pm to
Opendorse is largely guessing at those values. Some collectives from Texas, LSU, South Carolina, and Tennessee are their clients.

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They just take donations (Generally just revenue in government financial statements), ticket sales, and then slap 16% on as NIL collective donations. So for instance, if LSU builds a new athletic stadium then that "collective amount" will increase because state contributions or movement from the University to the AD will be counted as donations. Despite it not actually having any impact on collective money.

I would take that with a massive grain of salt
This post was edited on 5/25/24 at 1:53 pm
Posted by rtr23242526
Member since Dec 2022
3295 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:04 am to
Mediocre..organize the non whales..boom..
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