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re: If Coach Saban coaches the DBs, why are they our biggest weakness?
Posted on 1/3/14 at 11:56 am to chattabama
Posted on 1/3/14 at 11:56 am to chattabama
I am basing it on the opportunities he was given that I saw. Nothing more my opinion just everyone else who thinks he is great or how they could run playing calling any better. just an opinion.
And like you said no one knows either way.
And like you said no one knows either way.
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Posted on 1/3/14 at 11:57 am to OldPete
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Love our coaches but I don't understand why they don't take a closer look at LSU's defensive scheme against the HUNH...even with a down defense this year, LSU shut down the Gus bus and Johnny Football this year...while they struggled against more traditional offenses this year, they appear to have the HUNH pretty much figured out, at least the last 3 years or so any way...
Chavis plays pretty much straight man, hence why young corners can come in and play in it. There is barely any system to actually learn. But at the same time that is like I said where Third and Chavis comes from. His Defense doesn't start simple and then get more complicated as the guys gain experience it is always simple. They don't do any pattern reading, they don't readjust routes, they don't bait throws. Like I said high school simple.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 12:13 pm to chattabama
Regardless of whether or not Jackson will ever play on the level of Kirkpatrick or Millner, I wonder why Saban hasn't been able to recruit CBs that fit his established criteria of what he looks for in a corner.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 12:17 pm to BamaGradinTn
I think he does recruit them when they are out there, but until this year which had a loaded class there seem to be 1 or 2 each class and everyone else is recruiting. Not to mention Dre and Dee from AL.
I think TB depending on his recovery has a chance to see the field early next year being an EE.
I think TB depending on his recovery has a chance to see the field early next year being an EE.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:03 pm to TideWarrior
If I remember correctly EJ didn't play football much in high school and that was why he really wasn't on anybody radar last year until late when LSU and Bama offered. EJ is just isn't as polished as Dee and Dre coming in. However, I think EJ has more upside then both of them. I look for him and Smith to be the starters next year and do a very good job.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:15 pm to chattabama
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Why did we struggle so much if this is Saban's specialty? Before anyone brings up starting first year players, I watched both Florida and LSU have success starting freshman corners.
So what is the deal?
The deal is that Bama has lost 3 DB's in the 1st round of the draft the past 2 years. You just dont replace 1st rounders like that....plus the defense has missed Sunseri more than I thought they would. We had 2 true freshman for goodness sake out there vs a hot QB. Everyone cannot be a Hargreaves.
Im positive the secondary will be better next yr. 2 experienced safeties in Sunseri and Collins back, plus all spring ball for the young CB's(Jackson,Smith,Sylve,Jones) to get coached up.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 2:19 pm to OnTheBrink
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No dominant lineman to rush the passer. The pass rush was beyond pathetic this year.
LSU's defensive line wasn't that great either.
Florida suffered a rash of attrition but remained somewhat respectable at the end of the season.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 2:27 pm to OldPete
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Love our coaches but I don't understand why they don't take a closer look at LSU's defensive scheme against the HUNH...even with a down defense this year, LSU shut down the Gus bus and Johnny Football this year...while they struggled against more traditional offenses this year, they appear to have the HUNH pretty much figured out, at least the last 3 years or so any way...
You're overlooking two things.
Rivalry or not, LSU hasn't had an answer for Hugh Freeze's offense the past two seasons.
Secondly, Auburn was running a different offense in September and didn't hit their stride until November. Auburn is a different team than the one that lost 35-21 to LSU; plus Auburn had some bad breaks in that game. I'll stop there; I'm not going to turn this into an Auburn or LSU discussion.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 2:31 pm to Libertyabides71
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Chavis plays pretty much straight man, hence why young corners can come in and play in it. There is barely any system to actually learn. But at the same time that is like I said where Third and Chavis comes from. His Defense doesn't start simple and then get more complicated as the guys gain experience it is always simple. They don't do any pattern reading, they don't readjust routes, they don't bait throws. Like I said high school simple.
What the heck was Chavis' 2011 defense? They largely kept every offense in check, and it was hard to get into the end zone versus them. Running the ball on that defense wasn't fun. I find it surprising that his defense could actually just be simple. Was 2011 just the result of being loaded with great talent and leadership all around?
Posted on 1/3/14 at 2:34 pm to chattabama
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So what is the deal?
A lot of the D-back problems can be put on a slow D-line that gets very little penetration. But still, the entire D-backfield under-performed this year, with glaring weaknesses at both corners. Is it technique? Maybe it is. Dre, Dee, Jackson all had huge learning curves going into the NFL, but in new systems, their talent is beginning to emerge as they learn.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 2:48 pm to Gardevoir
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Was 2011 just the result of being loaded with great talent and leadership all around?
Yes.
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