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How can Bama get better at shooting free throws?

Posted on 12/22/21 at 7:22 am
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 7:22 am
Does Oats practice this fundamental?

There’s no way all of the guys have always been this bad from the line.

Maybe they should look into those granny shots.


Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
14481 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 7:57 am to
There’s no way to practice free throws enough during the allotted practice time to really become a good FT shooter. Guys have to be willing to tackle that on their own.

Coaches can help with certain mechanical adjustments but at the end of the day the FT is a muscle memory play to the greatest extent.
This post was edited on 12/22/21 at 7:59 am
Posted by ETT2001
Member since Dec 2020
720 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 8:06 am to
FT shooting has plagued Bama basketball for as long as I can remember watching since the early 90s. It has directly cost us games recently, Iona and UCLA in the tourney last year for sure.

For the longest time I theorize it was recruiting athletes vs. basketball players that fundamentally know how to shoot. But now that we have some good shooters it continues. Both Quinerly and Shack are below average FT shooters for guards. Your guards should be 85% plus from the strike. THese guys should be counted on the FT line when the game is on the line. IT is beyond frustrating. With Oats style being scoring from the FT line, layups and 3s EXCLUSIVELY- his team needs to be 80% from the FT line and 40% from 3 point line collectively to be successful.
Posted by Bryant91092
Member since Dec 2009
24486 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 8:23 am to
quote:

his team needs to be 80% from the FT line and 40% from 3 point line collectively to be successful.


I’m not going to spend time looking it up, but I can’t imagine these numbers are attainable
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
25525 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 8:27 am to
Anybody blaming last nights loss on JQ is WRONG. How about we show tf up from the start instead of waiting until we are down 52-39 to start playing
Posted by ETT2001
Member since Dec 2020
720 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 8:28 am to
quote:

his team needs to be 80% from the FT line and 40% from 3 point line collectively to be successful


Maybe an exaggeration but need to be much better than they are. As a team the best teams shoot 75% plus as a whole.
Posted by RTR11
Tuscaloosa
Member since Nov 2010
216 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 8:44 am to
We shot 75% from the free throw line yesterday. I think we are honing in on the wrong thing that lost us the game last night.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62759 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 9:06 am to
6 of 8 last night.
Just needed that one more....
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 10:30 am to
quote:

Coaches can help with certain mechanical adjustments but at the end of the day the FT is a muscle memory play to the greatest extent.


Free throws are generally taught to be shot using primarily the legs and the wrists, while concentrating on the front of the rim.
The intent is to use as few moving parts as possible, have a set "ritual" to follow every time, and to shoot enough practice shots as to allow for muscle memory to take over.
I personally believe the biggest problem most players experience is the lack of complete concentration. The "ritual" should encompass that.
Posted by Kcstills17
Member since Nov 2017
10066 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 10:31 am to
Lol both those numbers as a team are astronomical.
Posted by DLev45
Member since Aug 2018
719 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

With Oats style being scoring from the FT line, layups and 3s EXCLUSIVELY- his team needs to be 80% from the FT line and 40% from 3 point line collectively to be successful.


This is delusional.

Only 9 of 358 D1 teams are 80%+ FTs as a team.

Only 9 of 358 D1 teams are 40%+ 3PT as a team.

Only 1 of 358 D1 teams is both - Colorado State.

This post was edited on 12/22/21 at 1:18 pm
Posted by PowHound
The Peoples Moderator
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 12/22/21 at 3:46 pm to
Ask Joe Pendry
Posted by crimsontater
Trenton GA
Member since Dec 2009
3732 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 6:51 pm to
the first step to being a good free throw shooter, is actually caring about it. this has been going on so long now that i'm comfortable in saying, free throws is at the bottom of their list of things they care about.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26957 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 8:13 am to
quote:

How can Bama get better at shooting free throws?



To improve at shooting FTs, you need to be able to replicate in practice the two things players actually feel during a game...fatigue and pressure. Something like this:

At the end of practice each player has to run to the top of Coleman, back down, across the floor to the other side, to the top and back down again...twenty times.

Twenty trips to the top and down, across the floor to the other side, and to the top and back down again.

They shoot 20 FTs in blocks of 5.

They knock off one trip for each FT made.

Player shoots 5, makes 4...they go run one trip, then shoot another set of five, etc.

If they go 20 for 20, they don't run at all.

Something like that is the only way to replicate fatigue and pressure.

I've coached on basketball teams on the past that had success with this.
This post was edited on 12/24/21 at 8:24 pm
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 9:34 am to
quote:

Only 9 of 358 D1 teams are 80%+ FTs as a team.

Only 9 of 358 D1 teams are 40%+ 3PT as a team.

Only 1 of 358 D1 teams is both - Colorado State.
Are we sure that Davidson wasn't CSU, just with the Davidson uniforms on?
Posted by BamalaAnderson
Member since Nov 2012
272 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 1:00 pm to
Just look at what AAU basketball has done. All they do is run up and down the court making flashy plays, alley oops, and dunks. No fundamental training.

They start chucking 3’s at and early age and they use that same form to shoot 3’s and in most cases this affects the arc of FTs, coming out flat.

FTs need to have a different “shot” form from shooting 3s.

Look up Kyle Macy, Calvin Murphy sometime.

For kicks, go to a middle school basketball game and watch everybody shoot 3s during warmups, they all do it.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 12/24/21 at 9:17 am to
The culprit in all of this is the NBA! AAU kids aspire to be pros and when they see their idols playing street ball, they follow suit. Also, AAU coaches encourage it to showoff their kids' talent level for the best college scholarships.

PS-This is why Herb Jones is my favorite Tide player, because he's showing folks the value of defensive play...kinda like the old Red Auerbach Boston Celtics!
This post was edited on 12/24/21 at 9:21 am
Posted by Crimsonite94
Member since Jul 2021
3564 posts
Posted on 12/24/21 at 10:31 am to
We should wear Duke uniforms when we shoot a freethrow
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
24745 posts
Posted on 12/24/21 at 11:32 am to
Run 5 suicide drills at the end of practice for every FT you miss.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26957 posts
Posted on 12/24/21 at 8:26 pm to
quote:

Run 5 suicide drills at the end of practice for every FT you miss.



Fine, but you need to intersperse the FTs and the suicides. You have to practice shooting FTs when you're tired and breathing hard.
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