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re: Guys, its time. Up-tempo/HUNH
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:34 pm to Teague
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:34 pm to Teague
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teams were able to dictate what Bama did on offense.
I'm just wondering, as good as our running game seemed to be working last night, why we didn't run more on first down to shorten the sticks? Seemed to me Oklahoma's defense was more successful when we got in long yardage situations where AJ had to hold it a little longer to let receivers break open.
That Oklahoma lb that kept getting to AJ reminded me a lot of Eryk Anders that played for Bama a few years ago.
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Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:37 pm to Lg
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why we didn't run more on first down to shorten the sticks? Seemed
this is what EVERYONE have been wondering.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:43 pm to Nimbus2000
The 7 million dollar question I guess!!
This post was edited on 1/3/14 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 1/3/14 at 2:12 pm to rammerjammer24
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Its time to go AT LEAST up tempo with our offense. HUNH would not hurt my feelings. Maybe with our defense going up against it all the time in practice all offseason our defense will continue to grow along with our staff. Its painfully obvious to everyone that up tempo HUNH really gives us fits.
That's a pretty shitty idea.
There are multiple variations of the HUNH.
Which variation is the best one to adapt?
Alabama playing against their pro-style offense in HUNH woulnd't prepare them for the Air Raid or Read Option HUNH, so what's the point?
Posted on 1/3/14 at 2:24 pm to Bamad
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We need D-linemen who can pressure the QB
By god, this. I don't understand, with all those *stars, how we don't have a OLB that can put his hand in the dirt and get to the qb ala Biscuit and DT55 (The greatest ever) or even Upshaw. I thought Dickson or Devall would be that guy, but both grew right out of the position...and got slow.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 2:26 pm to Gardevoir
?So by your logic PACE has NOTHING to do with it? If we went to HUNH/UP TEMPO that's part of the equation we wouldnt have to spend as much time on in practice. Hence more time with whatever we might struggle with (pre-snap keys and reads and whatnot).
Posted on 1/3/14 at 2:45 pm to rammerjammer24
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?So by your logic PACE has NOTHING to do with it? If we went to HUNH/UP TEMPO that's part of the equation we wouldnt have to spend as much time on in practice. Hence more time with whatever we might struggle with (pre-snap keys and reads and whatnot).
That would be nice. Revisiting the fundamentals would be my priority. Bad angles, poor tackling, pushing out of bounds versus wrapping up, missing interceptions, failing to cause incompletions, etc. are problematic too. As I've said elsewhere, Aaron Murray and Mettenberger have given Alabama trouble too; neither of those teams are HUNH. I don't think HUNH is that special. Alabama just needs to learn to stay disciplined and keep their out for the ball.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 4:02 pm to Gardevoir
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That would be nice. Revisiting the fundamentals would be my priority. Bad angles, poor tackling, pushing out of bounds versus wrapping up, missing interceptions, failing to cause incompletions, etc. are problematic too. As I've said elsewhere, Aaron Murray and Mettenberger have given Alabama trouble too; neither of those teams are HUNH. I don't think HUNH is that special. Alabama just needs to learn to stay disciplined and keep their out for the ball.
I do agree with fundamentals, however thats one of the advantages of that style offense. Its difficult to get everyone in position, right defensive play called and play assignment football. Not saying it cant be done it just makes it harder and swings the advantage more in the offenses favor and wears down defenses. The SEC as a whole is shifting towards up tempo style offenses. i just hope we dont get left behind and cand find a way to improve how we defend against them
Posted on 1/3/14 at 4:15 pm to rammerjammer24
This is what the scout team is for.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 4:21 pm to rammerjammer24
thats the worst thing we could do as more and more teams go to it, defenses will be more and more geared to stopping it. which will make them more vulnerable to our pro style attack. what we need is to shore up the oline (this incoming class will help enormously) and get better at play calling
Posted on 1/3/14 at 4:31 pm to Broken Coyote
By god, this. I don't understand, with all those *stars, how we don't have a OLB that can put his hand in the dirt and get to the qb ala Biscuit and DT55 (The greatest ever) or even Upshaw. I thought Dickson or Devall would be that guy, but both grew right out of the position...and got slow.
I believe we have the players to do this, I believe the scheme we play is more of a read and react style. I think it is time for Kirby and CNS to re-evaluate the style of D we play.
I believe we have the players to do this, I believe the scheme we play is more of a read and react style. I think it is time for Kirby and CNS to re-evaluate the style of D we play.
This post was edited on 1/3/14 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 1/3/14 at 5:05 pm to rammerjammer24
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?So by your logic PACE has NOTHING to do with it? If we went to HUNH/UP TEMPO that's part of the equation we wouldnt have to spend as much time on in practice. Hence more time with whatever we might struggle with (pre-snap keys and reads and whatnot).
Because no huddle teams have a reputation for great defense don't they?
Posted on 1/3/14 at 5:53 pm to Libertyabides71
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Because no huddle teams have a reputation for great defense don't they?
Im talking about our defense. OUR defense struggles against it more so than any other. coincidence??
Posted on 1/3/14 at 5:58 pm to rammerjammer24
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Im talking about our defense. OUR defense struggles against it more so than any other. coincidence??
And how will our offense going full HUNH help at all? We are a balanced pro style ball control offense.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 8:09 pm to Libertyabides71
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And how will our offense going full HUNH help at all? We are a balanced pro style ball control offense.
It won't, we need to bring back the wishbone.
This post was edited on 1/3/14 at 8:11 pm
Posted on 1/3/14 at 11:09 pm to rammerjammer24
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Im talking about our defense. OUR defense struggles against it more so than any other. coincidence??
It is because we have to try to bring pressure from multiple defenders. This has worked in the past because we have had shutdown corners and safeties. We were getting picked apart last night when we brought extra pressure.
We shut down a HUNH earlier this year against Ole Miss because Eddie Jackson played lights out on Moncrief.
Our offense doesn't need to change at all. The talent on the OLine needs to be improved.
What may need to happen is Saban giving up on his 3-4 making the switch to 4-3.
Posted on 1/4/14 at 4:57 am to rammerjammer24
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Guys, its time. Up-tempo/HUNH
God damn it, there is nothing wrong with Alabama's style of offense. It's the execution/play calling and stupid arse turnovers. Alabama doesn't need to hurry up their offense, they need to be more disciplined with the one they run. That goes for players and coaches.
Posted on 1/4/14 at 8:09 am to harmonics
You can still be balanced and run up tempo offense. You can still run a pro style offense and be up-tempo. There is a drifference between spread and up tempo. Besides LSU, who was the last team to beat us that did not employ a up-tempo/HUNH???
Posted on 1/4/14 at 8:16 am to rammerjammer24
You still haven't made a good case as to why we need to change our offense.
Posted on 1/4/14 at 8:24 am to pvilleguru
Agree to disagree then 
Coach was on the player safety bus all offseason and talking about the severe disadvantage the defense has. Then why not give yourself the same advantage??? If its not against the rules it isn't cheating.
Coach was on the player safety bus all offseason and talking about the severe disadvantage the defense has. Then why not give yourself the same advantage??? If its not against the rules it isn't cheating.
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