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re: Does anyone know the story of Pettway?

Posted on 12/18/13 at 2:41 pm to
Posted by Ol'DirtyCam
Madtown
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 2:41 pm to
He wore red shoes.
Posted by Bama54
Neverland
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 3:07 pm to
@Assaul why so mad?
You have no idea what I donate. May be a little may be a lot. The fact is, as an alum not to mention a donor, it is my right to express my opinion. Right now I don't really have one as I don't know the story.
BTW have you ever stepped foot in a UA classroom? If so, my apologies. If not . Now that doesn't mean I am against sidewalk fans. They do not however, have the same right to speak about policy as do those who went there and continue to support the institution.
Posted by Bama54
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 3:10 pm to
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both saban and the academic administration know the story and are letting him back


Knowing what I know about Saban, the AD, and the admin, this is what I feel to be the case.
I would rather the truth be known, as I do not enjoy seeing the University being viewed in a bad light.
Posted by Asaul
Alabama
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 3:15 pm to
I was not mad at you? My last comment was praising the fact that you would write a letter to the college.
Posted by Bama54
Neverland
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 3:17 pm to
Sorry, I thought you were being sarcastic. My bad.
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 4:21 pm to
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I'm for 2nd chances in a lot of situations (bad grades, failed drug test, bar fight, etc) but not being a party to pre-meditated, unprovoked physical attacks on other students.


If he was actually knocking students out and robbing them then yeah he can get a second chance elsewhere.
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 4:48 pm to
I think CNS probably knows the facts better than you or I and places blame on himself for not kicking a couple of bad apples off the team earlier.

I don't think he would be on the team if CNS didn't think he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

I trust CNS on this one.
Posted by BuccWildBammer
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 6:28 pm to
He was/is 1 of the 2 I am not surprised to see back, the other being Calloway, not as involved as the other 2
Posted by Bama54
Neverland
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 6:46 pm to
I wondered about Calloway too, but wasn't he already in the doghouse about some other poor judgement issues?
Posted by BuccWildBammer
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 6:53 pm to
He was and didn't have the best attitude but what he did was TAME compared to the other 3, but I felt that way about DJ because he didn't know that's what Eddie was doing that night and threw a fit on the others

He hung with Eddie and just happened to be with them was story I heard, Eddie was a cunning clever MFer

I've posted before that I have NO room to talk because I'm alive today because of given chances and understand the situation in the middle of a shite storm when everything comes crumbling down on you, so I have no problems with it

Would have a problem with Eddie but not DJ
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 6:58 pm to
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That I once knew, and talked too, but he would never boast


I'm having trouble making the connection here with this lyric
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11834 posts
Posted on 12/18/13 at 7:17 pm to
I am with the few that believes he should not be back. Deserve a 2nd chance yes but elsewhere. Football should not come 1st.

In regards to what he did we may never know. You can google the reports out there when it happened. He was not in the car during the 1st. He was accused of assault during the 1st robbery but not the 2nd one. He was charged with 2 counts of robbery not sure what happened once it went to court. Williams and Hayes both confessed for their parts Pettway never did.

Also remember UA kicked them out of school after a judicial review or whatever it was and I assume UA has to allow him back in before he can even consider rejoining the football team.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50383 posts
Posted on 12/18/13 at 7:17 pm to
With this guy being the only one allowed back I have to believe there is more to this story. If it was just "he did his time let's give him a pass" I think we'd have Calloway back too.
This post was edited on 12/18/13 at 7:30 pm
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11834 posts
Posted on 12/18/13 at 7:23 pm to
He never confessed and with court records being sealed we may never know. Which means what does the school base their decision on. If they do not have access to his records it is like the NCAA when they have no subpoena power.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50383 posts
Posted on 12/18/13 at 7:30 pm to
Wouldn't the original report have been filed with the on campus cops? Surely Saban could have a look at that.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 7:32 pm to
Original report states that all three actively participated in one and Williams alone, did the second, but the other two were fully aware of the second.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 7:36 pm to
Here is a story on DJ Pettway from TideSports. Looks like he is worthy of a second opportunity. That is my opinion, and I am sticking to it.

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Story: JUCO coaches call Pettway 'the model kid' during his time at EMCC

East Mississippi Community College defensive coordinator Jordan Lesley was ready to ask his newest player, D.J. Pettway, about the troubled road that led him to a dismissal at Alabama, an abrupt drop off the college football radar and into his meeting room in tiny Scooba, Miss.

But Lesley never had a chance to ask.

"The first thing he said to me without any questions being asked is 'Coach, I made a mistake, I was wrong.' He took full responsibility for it without me bringing up that situation," Lesley said. "That told me all I needed to know about the type of kid he was.



Defensive lineman D.J. Pettway signed with Alabama on Wednesday.
"A lot of times kids choose to deny, deny, deny. DJ said 'I was wrong. I've embarrassed my family, I've embarrassed the University of Alabama, I've embarrassed myself,' without me saying a word. And that's the only time we ever talked about that situation."

Pettway, a member of Alabama's 2011 class out of Pensacola (Fla.) Catholic High, played a role on Alabama's 2012 national championship team. He played in 13 games and registered seven tackles and 1.5 sacks.

Less than two months after the title run, Pettway was one of four players suspended indefinitely by head coach Nick Saban due to involvement in the alleged robbery of two UA students.

Pettway, who admitted involvement in the crimes according to depositions filed UA police officers, was charged with two counts of second-degree robbery. Because Pettway was granted youthful offender status, the outcome of his case was not made public.

All four players were eventually dismissed from the team. But after one season at EMCC, Pettway is on his way back. He signed a letter of intent on Wednesday and is expected to enroll at UA in January.

Pettway did not return phone calls seeking comment on Wednesday.

After his dismissal, Pettway spent the 2013 season at EMCC and helped the Lions to the 2013 NJCAA national championship. According to his junior college coaches, Pettway was anything but a distraction.

"We never had an issue with D.J., not one single thing," Lesley said. "He knew what he had to do, he knew the situation he was in, he was fully aware of everything."

It also didn't take long for Pettway to make his impression felt on campus.

"A lot of times, at junior colleges, (players leaving bigger schools) can go one of two ways," Lesley said. "He could look over at everybody, keep to himself, turn his nose up and know the caliber of player he is, or you can do what DJ did, take a step back from what he was a part of, look at the whole spectrum, take it for what it is and make the very best out of it. That's what he did. He came in, worked his tail off, helped younger guys. DJ Pettway did as much coaching as we did."

Said DeCarlos Holmes, Pettway's defensive line coach at EMCC: "He was receptive, he went to class, did everything he was supposed to do, didn't get in trouble, he was a model kid here. I told him his effort would come back to him and it came back to him."

Pettway excelled at EMCC, earning All-American honors. He tallied 47 tackles and 11.5 sacks while sharing the same side of the line with defensive tackle Jarran Reed, who also signed with Alabama on Wednesday.

"(Pettway) was real receptive to some of the things I tried to change up with him, and like I told him, if he listened and took it all in, he'd be a better player if he had an opportunity to go back," Holmes said. "He did. He took everything in, he didn't have the attitude like, 'Well, I've been at Alabama so whatever you teach me is not better than that.' He was really receptive, and man, he just flourished in our system."

Pettway lined up all over the Lions' front seven, getting snaps in certain packages at nose guard, defensive tackle and outside linebacker outside of his traditional spot at defensive end.

So how good could Pettway be?

"Playing wise? Just watch the film, it speaks for itself," Lesley said.

Lesley considers Pettway a shoo-in NFL prospect with an unlimited ceiling.

"What round, that's obviously up to him and how hard he works. But at his full potential, when he puts his mind to it, you're looking at a first-or second-round pick, there's no question about it. There's nothing on the defensive side of the ball he can't do."

After a year out of the spotlight proving himself in Scooba, Pettway now has another chance to make a splash.

"He's a joy to be around, he's a joy to watch, it's really a joy more than anything to watch him grow as a young man, accept responsibility and put it behind him." Lesley said. "I think that's the hardest thing for anyone to do. Put it behind you and move on, and that's exactly what he did. And it was definitely our pleasure to have him here."

Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 7:39 pm to
You can put me in the group that is not proud of his return. If he played a really small role in the assault, he may not have been charged. but he was charged. maybe this is why he got youthful status.
Unless he comes out and publicly talks about his mistakes, about how his life has turned around, and how he has apologized to the victim or victims, I will question this decision.

Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 7:46 pm to
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Unless he comes out and publicly talks about his mistakes, about how his life has turned around,


look above your post.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62744 posts
Posted on 12/18/13 at 7:53 pm to
I'd like for him to apologize to his victims, and openly and directly to the University, not just second hand quotes from his JC coach.
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