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Derrick Henry is the best RB of the Saban Era (Updated to include carries)
Posted on 11/29/15 at 9:40 am
Posted on 11/29/15 at 9:40 am
Derrick Henry has run for at least 100 yards 13 times in his career. (Has appeared in 37 games so far)
TJ Yeldon ran for at least 100 yards 15 times in his career. (Appeared in 39 games)
Eddie Lacy ran for at least 100 yards 7 times in his career. (Appeared in 37 games)
Trent Richardson ran for at least 100 yards 13 times in his career. (Appeared in 38 games)
Mark Ingram ran for at least 100 yards 12 times in his career. (Appeared in 39 games)
Derrick Henry has run for 200 yards 4 times in his career.
TJ Yeldon never ran for 200 yards in his career.
Eddie Lacy never ran for 200 yards in his career.
Trent Richardson ran for 200 yards 1 time in his career.
Mark Ingram ran for 200 yards 1 time in his career.
Derrick Henry has run for at least 1 TD in 24 of 37 games.
TJ Yeldon ran for at least 1 TD in 27 of 39 games.
Eddie Lacy ran for at least 1 TD in 18 of 37 games.
Trent Richardson ran for at least 1 TD in 21 of 38 games.
Mark Ingram ran for at least 1 TD in 28 of 39 games.
Derrick Henry in his career: 502 total carries, 13.56 Carries Per Game
TJ Yeldon in his career: 576 total carries, 14.76 Carries Per Game
Eddie Lacy in his career: 355 total carries, 9.59 Carries Per Game
Trent Richardson in his career: 539 total carries, 14.18 Carries Per Game
Mark Ingram in his career: 572 Total Carries, 14.66 Carries Per Game
TJ Yeldon ran for at least 100 yards 15 times in his career. (Appeared in 39 games)
Eddie Lacy ran for at least 100 yards 7 times in his career. (Appeared in 37 games)
Trent Richardson ran for at least 100 yards 13 times in his career. (Appeared in 38 games)
Mark Ingram ran for at least 100 yards 12 times in his career. (Appeared in 39 games)
Derrick Henry has run for 200 yards 4 times in his career.
TJ Yeldon never ran for 200 yards in his career.
Eddie Lacy never ran for 200 yards in his career.
Trent Richardson ran for 200 yards 1 time in his career.
Mark Ingram ran for 200 yards 1 time in his career.
Derrick Henry has run for at least 1 TD in 24 of 37 games.
TJ Yeldon ran for at least 1 TD in 27 of 39 games.
Eddie Lacy ran for at least 1 TD in 18 of 37 games.
Trent Richardson ran for at least 1 TD in 21 of 38 games.
Mark Ingram ran for at least 1 TD in 28 of 39 games.
Derrick Henry in his career: 502 total carries, 13.56 Carries Per Game
TJ Yeldon in his career: 576 total carries, 14.76 Carries Per Game
Eddie Lacy in his career: 355 total carries, 9.59 Carries Per Game
Trent Richardson in his career: 539 total carries, 14.18 Carries Per Game
Mark Ingram in his career: 572 Total Carries, 14.66 Carries Per Game
This post was edited on 11/29/15 at 9:54 am
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Posted on 11/29/15 at 9:45 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
And under a worse oline (except for yeldon)
Posted on 11/29/15 at 9:46 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
I'm not saying he's not great but it's not cut and dried. He's the first back without a real "1b" option behind him. Drake is more of a change of pace. Before this year our 1a and 1b split the carries a lot more evenly.
Upchurch->Ingram->Trent->Lacy->Yeldon->Henry->???
We'd need to compare carry count before getting carried away.
That said, he deserves the Heisman. But if I'm starting a Bama team from scratch--I think I'm still picking Trent Richardson before him.
Love them all, but I think this has a LOT to do with carries. Saban said as much in a post game interview.
Upchurch->Ingram->Trent->Lacy->Yeldon->Henry->???
We'd need to compare carry count before getting carried away.
That said, he deserves the Heisman. But if I'm starting a Bama team from scratch--I think I'm still picking Trent Richardson before him.
Love them all, but I think this has a LOT to do with carries. Saban said as much in a post game interview.
This post was edited on 11/29/15 at 9:47 am
Posted on 11/29/15 at 9:46 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
No other back has gotten the majority of the carries like Henry has this year.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 9:52 am to Grievous Angel
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We'd need to compare carry count before getting carried away.
Derrick Henry in his career: 502 total carries, 13.56 Carries Per Game
TJ Yeldon in his career: 576 total carries, 14.76 Carries Per Game
Eddie Lacy in his career: 355 total carries, 9.59 Carries Per Game
Trent Richardson in his career: 539 total carries, 14.18 Carries Per Game
Mark Ingram in his career: 572 Total Carries, 14.66 Carries Per Game
So Ingram, Richardson, and Yeldon all had more carries in their careers AND more carries per game. Plus Henry's three years have been behind three of the worst OLs of the Saban era.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:30 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
Just saw this:
@BW_Jones: Derrick Henry's 1,797 rushing yards is 4th in single season in SEC history. Trails Herschel, McFadden, Tre Mason. 94 yards from the record.
@BW_Jones: Derrick Henry's 1,797 rushing yards is 4th in single season in SEC history. Trails Herschel, McFadden, Tre Mason. 94 yards from the record.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 12:14 pm to sarc
I know the post limited it to Saban era, but I personally take Shaun Alexander or Bobby Humphrey as they were both better receivers and could run inside or on the edge.
Out of the Saban era, I would go with Yeldon or Richardson over Henry, as Henry is a little more one dimensional. Yeldon in particular was a little under appreciated in how versatile he was
Out of the Saban era, I would go with Yeldon or Richardson over Henry, as Henry is a little more one dimensional. Yeldon in particular was a little under appreciated in how versatile he was
Posted on 11/29/15 at 12:49 pm to droliver
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as Henry is a little more one dimensional.
Are people really still saying this??
Posted on 11/29/15 at 12:52 pm to Funky Tide 8
I think he means Henry doesn't receive the ball like they do. He's sort of right, Henry doesn't have a lot of career catches. However when he does get a pass thrown his way it is usually a big play.
In his first two seasons here he had 6 catches for 194 yards and 3 TDs
This year he has 10 catches for 97 yards and no TDs
I hope we're saying a good Henry screen for the playoffs.
In his first two seasons here he had 6 catches for 194 yards and 3 TDs
This year he has 10 catches for 97 yards and no TDs
I hope we're saying a good Henry screen for the playoffs.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 12:58 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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I think he means Henry doesn't receive the ball like they do.
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However when he does get a pass thrown his way it is usually a big play.
Exactly. The sample size that we have, however small that may be, shows us that Henry is great at catching out of the backfield.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 1:00 pm to Funky Tide 8
The 61 yarder against Oklahoma, I remember thinking for a while we needed to do something like that with him. And then when we lined up based on how far away from AJ he was I knew we were doing it. If we have to play them again I'd love to see that exact same play. No need to shoot the OL out in front of him, just get him away from the mass inside and let him use his open field vision and speed. I noticed he leaked out as a checkdown a couple of times yesterday, but Coker didn't throw it out there. If a play is taking too long to develop I'd love to see him start dumping it off to Henry and letting him use the open field. He's unstoppable out there.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 1:36 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
I don't know why we don't do more RB screens or utilize the FB more than we do to help the QB and OL. LF7 has a FB for the majority of the time. Henry does not. I would like to see the percentage of plays in which LF7 has a FB blocking for him and compare that to Henry.
Granted, we have Brandon Greene on some plays.
ETA: RB Screens rather than WRs Screen/Bubble Screens. I suppose WRs Screens spread the ball out but putting a delayed screen into DH's hands and have a developed play down field would be something, too.
Granted, we have Brandon Greene on some plays.
ETA: RB Screens rather than WRs Screen/Bubble Screens. I suppose WRs Screens spread the ball out but putting a delayed screen into DH's hands and have a developed play down field would be something, too.
This post was edited on 11/29/15 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 11/29/15 at 1:39 pm to UASports23
We don't have a true FB in the backfield. There is no Jalston Fowler on the roster sadly.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 1:42 pm to RollTide1987
True. I think Nysewander would do pretty good. He could release and go upfield too. That was a money play last year with Nudie. We've used it on rare occasions and it has worked this season. I believe it was against TN for a TD?
Posted on 11/29/15 at 5:32 pm to UASports23
Henry has showed nothing to suggest he has the kind of value as a receiver those other guys had.
I think that's going to be one of the knocks on him as a potential 1st round pick for the NFL. OTOH he is a real MF on pass blocking, always seems to make the right pickup
I think that's going to be one of the knocks on him as a potential 1st round pick for the NFL. OTOH he is a real MF on pass blocking, always seems to make the right pickup
Posted on 11/29/15 at 6:02 pm to UASports23
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I don't know why we don't do more RB screens or utilize the FB more than we do to help the QB and OL. LF7 has a FB for the majority of the time. Henry does not. I would like to see the percentage of plays in which LF7 has a FB blocking for him and compare that to Henry
Really? You want to trade away Bama's offense for the shite show at LSU?
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:32 pm to droliver
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Henry has showed nothing to suggest he has the kind of value as a receiver those other guys had.
I simply disagree.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 9:08 pm to Funky Tide 8
Different offense past two years. I feel pretty confident Henry could perform as a receiver if put in the situation. Let's be honest, we are talking screens and dump downs those other guys caught. They weren't out in space running routes like Drake.
Also, Coffee was Ingram's predecessor, not Upchurch.
Also, Coffee was Ingram's predecessor, not Upchurch.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 9:54 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
I trashed Henry like a fool. Glad he's proved me wrong
Posted on 11/29/15 at 10:15 pm to WW
The Henry run at the goal line right after Ridleys long catch, it seemed close to being a TD but was never reviewed and I never saw a reply. Was it not even close? Was surprised they never showed an angle with the ball relative to the goal line.
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