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re: Could a two quarterback system be our best chance at success?
Posted on 9/8/14 at 1:53 pm to Remy74
Posted on 9/8/14 at 1:53 pm to Remy74
Shane Lechler would have been jealous of that hang time too. I love sims, I just don't love his ability to stretch the field. I think we would have seen a lot more of it in these two games if it was something the coaches felt he was good at.
I can't believe you just linked me to a hypotenuse calculator
I can't believe you just linked me to a hypotenuse calculator
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 2:01 pm to Lordofwrath88
I think Sims and Coker will split snaps again this week but come Florida week and for most SEC games I think Sims will get the majority of the practice reps. I think the idea of truly playing both quarterbacks is just to keep the other teams guessing. I like Coker but I think he really needed to go through this spring and he didn't get that chance. For now Sims is our guy and I hope he has one of those seasons for the ages that defies all the prognostications.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 2:07 pm to Remy74
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The Sims pass to Christion Jones that was dropped
I like Sims, but using that punt pass to Jones as an example of Sims good arm strength is not convincing at all. That was a hail mary duck that will get picked more often than get caught by the receiver.
I do think Sims mobility brings something different to the table, which, if used correctly, could more than make up for his lack of arm strength.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 2:17 pm to elposter
Why do you call it a duck? As near as I can tell on the replay it was a nice spiral
Posted on 9/8/14 at 2:57 pm to sarc
Did not read entire thread - only replying to OP.
NO. frick no. Two QB systems are for teams that either A) have no quarterback, or B) have one QB with a very specific package, a la Tebow when Leak was starting.
Neither of those scenarios apply to us. If you think scenario A does, then you also think we'll lose 3 or 4 games this year.
Any person who played FB for any length of time at any respectable level will tell you that 99% of the time, a 2-QB system is "kryptonite" for winning. Just a fricking terrible idea.
NO. frick no. Two QB systems are for teams that either A) have no quarterback, or B) have one QB with a very specific package, a la Tebow when Leak was starting.
Neither of those scenarios apply to us. If you think scenario A does, then you also think we'll lose 3 or 4 games this year.
Any person who played FB for any length of time at any respectable level will tell you that 99% of the time, a 2-QB system is "kryptonite" for winning. Just a fricking terrible idea.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 6:23 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Jesus. I wish y'all would go watch that play again. I know exactly which one you're talking about. Cooper was 2-3 steps behind the defense and a safety was dropping down to take away the deep cross. It is never a bad decision to throw it to Amari Cooper when he is the deepest guy on the field, Coker just made a bad throw. It was the perfect read, if he throws the cross it either gets picked or jones gets his head knocked off.
100% correct. The safety was no factor. A properly thrown ball results in 6.
100% correct. The safety was no factor. A properly thrown ball results in 6.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 6:33 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Real question:
Has a true 2-QB team ever won a title?
And I'm not talking about special package QBs like the Chris Leak/Tebow situation.
Has a true 2-QB team ever won a title?
And I'm not talking about special package QBs like the Chris Leak/Tebow situation.
This post was edited on 9/8/14 at 10:24 pm
Posted on 9/8/14 at 11:45 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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100% correct. The safety was no factor. A properly thrown ball results in 6.
Yep ....safety bites on the crossing route .Either throw would have been a good decision but the deep route was first read and it was breaking open.
Blakes attitude is awesome and because of that it may work .he was the first person to greet Jake as he came off the field.
At the moment Blake is the best qb and should be getting the snaps.Coker could change my opinion Sat but Blake is the guy right now.Zone read please !
Posted on 9/9/14 at 9:35 am to JBearden
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Blakes attitude is awesome and because of that it may work .he was the first person to greet Jake as he came off the field.
He's the ultimate team player and the face of perseverance. It's hard not to root for him. Objectively speaking though they bring different strengths to the table, and I'd like to see us utilize both of those strengths.
Posted on 9/9/14 at 9:46 am to Riseupfromtherubble
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He's the ultimate team player and the face of perseverance. It's hard not to root for him. Objectively speaking though they bring different strengths to the table, and I'd like to see us utilize both of those strengths.
i agree with this. but i have to wonder where is the point of diminishing return? how do we find the balance between getting Blake enough work to master the offense and giving Coker enough reps to be develop and be effective?
Posted on 9/9/14 at 3:46 pm to CrimsonTideMD
sorry but Tebow and Leak are as close as it comes recently.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 6:11 pm to CrimsonTideMD
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Real question:
Has a true 2-QB team ever won a title?
Yeah. Us.
1973: Gary Rutledge and Richard Todd. SEC champs and UPI national champs.
1978: Jeff Rutledge and Steadman Shealy. SEC champs and AP national champs.
1979: Steadman Shealy and Don Jacobs. SEC champs and AP/UPI national champs.
Although they may not have been "co-starters", the #2 QB during the Bryant era of 1973-1982 generally got lots of meaningful snaps in close games. In 1973, Richard Todd had the final TD against Notre Dame, even though Gary Rutledge was the starter.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 6:31 pm to prevatt33
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Any person who played FB for any length of time at any respectable level will tell you that 99% of the time, a 2-QB system is "kryptonite" for winning. Just a fricking terrible idea.
If you're talking about a system where the two QBs don't know from one game to the next who's starting, you may be right.
If you're talking about a system where the backup QB is getting anywhere from 1/4 to 1/3 of the snaps, regardless of the opponent, you might want to stop by here sometime and have a chat with this guy. It's been a while since he played FB at a respectable level, but he didn't do too badly when he did.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 6:52 pm to BamaGradinTn
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the #2 QB during the Bryant era of 1973-1982 generally got lots of meaningful snaps in close games.
Well yeah it makes a lot more sense to do that with the wishbone offense than with a pro-style offense
Posted on 9/10/14 at 7:34 pm to sarc
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Well yeah it makes a lot more sense to do that with the wishbone offense than with a pro-style offense
Maybe...but he didn't do it in 1971 and 1972. The QB can still get fatigued and get hit a lot even in a pro style offense. Look how many times Sims had to run for his life and got hit against WVA. The bottom line is that your philosophy is to get your back-up quality experience, or you're just gonna play one guy.
Also, Bryant's version of the wishbone evolved into more of a passing offense. We threw 88 total passes in all of 1971, 124 in 1974, 138 in 1975, 158 in 1978.
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