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Better pure passer: Brodie vs. Tua
Posted on 12/16/19 at 10:26 am
Posted on 12/16/19 at 10:26 am
This one is closer than folks on this board will admit...maybe many won’t remember how good of a passer Brodie was.
If Brodie would’ve had a Saban-recruited supporting cast, he would have put up similar or better numbers.
Tough call.
If Brodie would’ve had a Saban-recruited supporting cast, he would have put up similar or better numbers.
Tough call.
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Posted on 12/16/19 at 10:30 am to Eli Goldfinger
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This one is closer than folks on this board will admit...
It really isn't.
Posted on 12/16/19 at 10:30 am to Eli Goldfinger
Brodie had great arm strength but his touch wasn't that great. Now, in fairness to him, he had a lot fewer guys running open and a lot less time, generally, to throw the ball. I still think with each at their best, Tua is better than Brodie was.
Posted on 12/16/19 at 10:30 am to Eli Goldfinger
Just from a pure arm talent standpoint, I’d probably go with Brodie.
Brodie didn’t have the benefit of open offenses and year round training that’s available now either.
It’s just a different game for QB development since Brodie signed with Alabama in 2001.
Brodie didn’t have the benefit of open offenses and year round training that’s available now either.
It’s just a different game for QB development since Brodie signed with Alabama in 2001.
Posted on 12/16/19 at 10:31 am to Eli Goldfinger
Brodie overthrew 9 out of every 10 deepballs
Only similarity IMO is they both are made of glass
Only similarity IMO is they both are made of glass
This post was edited on 12/16/19 at 10:32 am
Posted on 12/16/19 at 10:31 am to Eli Goldfinger
Tua’s accuracy sets him apart IMO
Posted on 12/16/19 at 10:33 am to CapstoneGrad06
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Brodie didn’t have the benefit of open offenses and year round training that’s available now either.
Brodie and training weren't really a great match as it was.
Posted on 12/16/19 at 10:39 am to Eli Goldfinger
As others have alluded to, Brodie would kick Tua's arse if the goal were to overthrow passes. Tua's more accurate and it's not close. I believe Tua also has a significantly quicker release, but I could be wrong.
This post was edited on 12/16/19 at 10:42 am
Posted on 12/16/19 at 10:42 am to Bham Bammer
It’s just much more an outlook on QB development in general.
Posted on 12/16/19 at 10:57 am to Eli Goldfinger
actual lol at the thread title
Posted on 12/16/19 at 11:03 am to Eli Goldfinger
Accuracy - Tua
Touch - Tua
Release - Tua
Anticipation - Tua
Throwing on the run - Tua
Improvising arm angle - Tua
Arm strength - Brodie
Touch - Tua
Release - Tua
Anticipation - Tua
Throwing on the run - Tua
Improvising arm angle - Tua
Arm strength - Brodie
This post was edited on 12/16/19 at 11:12 am
Posted on 12/16/19 at 11:19 am to MoarKilometers
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It really isn't.
It's not close... in the least.
I think (as a whole) AJ McCarron was a much better comparison. His deep ball to Amari Cooper in the 2012 SECCG was a frozen rope from the opposite side of the hashmark.
AJ McCarron is very well on his way to a 10 year NFL career.
Posted on 12/16/19 at 11:37 am to Eli Goldfinger
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This one is closer than folks on this board will admit
Not really
Brodie could have been a really good QB if he was 5-7 years younger, but he was a gunslinger whose ball sailed on him quite frequently.
Posted on 12/16/19 at 11:47 am to elposter
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Accuracy - Tua
Touch - Tua
Release - Tua
Anticipation - Tua
Throwing on the run - Tua
Improvising arm angle - Tua
Arm strength - Brodie
You could also substitute Freddie Kitchens for Brodie I’m that same list, which proves the point the premise of this thread is a little difficult to follow.
Posted on 12/16/19 at 11:49 am to SummerOfGeorge
Brodie could throw a hole through a brick wall but couldn't hit the fat side of Texas on deep balls.
He also didn't have an OL worth a shite. Those 04-05 OLs were the worst in college football
He also didn't have an OL worth a shite. Those 04-05 OLs were the worst in college football
Posted on 12/16/19 at 11:50 am to Eli Goldfinger
Passer of what?
One kudos to Brodie, though, is his fine work at the big Oak Ranch
One kudos to Brodie, though, is his fine work at the big Oak Ranch
Posted on 12/16/19 at 11:52 am to stomp
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He also didn't have an OL worth a shite. Those 04-05 OLs were the worst in college football
If Brodie had come around in 2008 he could have been an All-American.
Still don't think you can really compare him to Tua.
Posted on 12/16/19 at 12:00 pm to Eli Goldfinger
I heard Gary Danielson talking about Tua a couple of weeks ago on wjox. He had Tua in in the top five quarterbacks of all time for accuracy on short quick passes. And Danielson said those are much harder for a QB to throw than a deep pass. He said on a long pass the ball can be off target several yards, but a good receiver will adjust and catch the ball. On the short pass, the throws have to be very accurate and and you cant load up and throw a hot pass on a short crossing route or the receiver cant catch it. GD said on those passes, if you are off one foot, the receiver cant catch it or worse he tips the ball and its intercepted He mentioned Brady, Breeze, Joe Montana, and I think one other right there with Tua.
This post was edited on 12/16/19 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 12/16/19 at 12:42 pm to IB4bama
Tua is just special, his weaknesses are mainly just bad habits
Posted on 12/16/19 at 1:02 pm to IB4bama
That is some mighty refined company and Tua is still in college.
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