Started By
Message
About Our Offense
Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:03 am
Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:03 am
This isn't a concern. Starting Spencer Pennington & Aaron Johns is a concern. This is just an observation. Our offensive ceiling seems to be 3 TDs a game and it appears that our OL just hasn't developed consistency yet. We are one of the best teams in the country but IMO, we will need our offense to improve somewhat if we want to win the playoff. I hate to be critical of feeding Henry because I 100% believe you have to stick with what works. However, the stat that Ridley's TD on Saturday was the first non-Henry offensive TD since Arkansas gives me a smidge of "concern".
The great thing about the last two games is that we saw a great MTAQ drive against LSU (something we had not seen in a few years) and some explosive scoring plays against MSU.
Thoughts?
The great thing about the last two games is that we saw a great MTAQ drive against LSU (something we had not seen in a few years) and some explosive scoring plays against MSU.
Thoughts?
This post was edited on 11/17/15 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:21 am to FairhopeTider
My concern is Kiffin's lack of patience in calling plays. He wants to force that long bomb 10 times a game when running the ball is working.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:23 am to FairhopeTider
This offense relies a little too much on big plays to score for my liking. The offensive line has been a weakness, but they do seem to be improving. I'd like to see more mid-longer passes being completed to help open up the run game.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:32 am to Pinche Cabron
for me the two biggest things are easily fewer penalties and fewer negative plays. add in a better 3rd down conversion rate, bingo! serious threat to win it all
Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:49 am to Pinche Cabron
quote:
My concern is Kiffin's lack of patience in calling plays. He wants to force that long bomb 10 times a game when running the ball is working.
10 times is a bit of a stretch, but when teams are putting 8 and 9 guys in the box like MSU was doing, you have to take shots down the field. We haven't hit one of those since the Arkansas game though. Some of that is OL protection, some of that is WRs not getting open, and some is on Coker not pulling the trigger.
I fully expect AU to load the box and key on stopping Henry. Hopefully we can work on those long pass plays this week.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 10:21 am to FairhopeTider
Yeah, the post season will be filled with tight games with the way our Oline is so inconsistent.
But they will be exciting.
But they will be exciting.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 10:46 am to Funky Tide 8
quote:
Yeah, the post season will be filled with tight games with the way our Oline is so inconsistent.
I think we need to be a little honest here. We are a one man offense. Now that one man is the best RB in the country and possibly the best back in UA history...but if Henry goes down or becomes a non-factor, where do we turn? What's the next strength of our offense? Now its silly to say that because a lot of offenses would go into the tank if their Heisman candidate went down, but I don't think we can win a national championship if our offense is simply the Derrick Henry show.
Our defense is all-world, but our offense better be prepared to step up to the plate when we play Ohio State, Clemson, or OU.
This post was edited on 11/17/15 at 10:48 am
Posted on 11/17/15 at 10:51 am to FairhopeTider
I wouldn't say we're completely a one man offense.
Calvin Ridley has 57 catches (Coop has 59 as a Freshman, though Coop also averaged something like 6 more yards per catch that year than Ridley is averaging this year), ArDarius Stewart has 38 catches, OJ Howard has 29 catches, and Richard Mullaney has 28 catches. We're not making a lot of big plays in the passing game, and Henry definitely opens up a lot, but I think if we needed someone else to step up we've got four targets right there who could make a play or two down the stretch.
Calvin Ridley has 57 catches (Coop has 59 as a Freshman, though Coop also averaged something like 6 more yards per catch that year than Ridley is averaging this year), ArDarius Stewart has 38 catches, OJ Howard has 29 catches, and Richard Mullaney has 28 catches. We're not making a lot of big plays in the passing game, and Henry definitely opens up a lot, but I think if we needed someone else to step up we've got four targets right there who could make a play or two down the stretch.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 10:54 am to The Spleen
quote:
10 times is a bit of a stretch
Do you even hyperbole bro?
quote:
when teams are putting 8 and 9 guys in the box like MSU was doing, you have to take shots down the field.
Which is why my second post mentioned OJ Howard. Send the receivers deep... have OJ sitting 12 yards down field for the easy throw.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 10:56 am to FairhopeTider
quote:
I think we need to be a little honest here. We are a one man offense.
If we are being honest...no, we aren't a one man offense.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 11:07 am to FairhopeTider
This Coker concern has been creeping into my head lately. I was impressed with how he handled the late drive against Tennessee, but I can't remember anything else he has done with his arm in the past 1 1/2 months. What am I missing?
Posted on 11/17/15 at 11:10 am to Funky Tide 8
quote:
If we are being honest...no, we aren't a one man offense.
Its a bit of hyperbole, but our offense is centered around Henry. We went three games without anyone else scoring a TD. He's the engine. Now we have other weapons but if Henry goes down or we face a DL that neutralizes him, can we still be a championship offense with those weapons?
Posted on 11/17/15 at 11:40 am to FairhopeTider
I don't mind calling pass plays early on--it throws the opposing team off and gets them to spread out of an 8-man box. But sometimes I think Kiffin relies too much on it early on and it really puts the pressure on the defense when catches and throws aren't made and the in other team is killing us in TOP. I know it didn't really mean much, but against Miss State, we had a 10-3 pass to run ratio early on and State was beginning to move the ball.
I'd like to see the offense try more bootlegs and throws to OJ in the flat. OJ's ability to evade a LBer almost always results in a 1st down. Then for short yardage, Mullaney is money.
I'd like to see the offense try more bootlegs and throws to OJ in the flat. OJ's ability to evade a LBer almost always results in a 1st down. Then for short yardage, Mullaney is money.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 11:49 am to Gary Busey
quote:
I don't mind calling pass plays early on--it throws the opposing team off and gets them to spread out of an 8-man box. But sometimes I think Kiffin relies too much on it early on and it really puts the pressure on the defense when catches and throws aren't made and the in other team is killing us in TOP. I know it didn't really mean much, but against Miss State, we had a 10-3 pass to run ratio early on and State was beginning to move the ball.
I'd like to see the offense try more bootlegs and throws to OJ in the flat. OJ's ability to evade a LBer almost always results in a 1st down. Then for short yardage, Mullaney is money.
Well said
Posted on 11/17/15 at 11:50 am to Gary Busey
quote:
we had a 10-3 pass to run ratio early on and State was beginning to move the ball.
That first drive was pretty until Ridley dropped that easy pass.
quote:
I'd like to see the offense try more bootlegs and throws to OJ in the flat. OJ's ability to evade a LBer almost always results in a 1st down. Then for short yardage, Mullaney is money.
Agreed, agreed, agreed.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 12:07 pm to FairhopeTider
I think what you're seeing now is why we're all posters on internet forums and Saban & Co are preparing to win another SEC title.
Alabama started the season replacing 8 or 9 (depending on how you look at OJ Howard) starters on offense. The SOLE known quantity was Henry. Everyone knew he was great.
In September & October, Bama was winning games - and usually by comfortable margins (Ole Miss game excepted) - but the fans were bitching about Kiffin throwing the ball all over the field.
"Fire Kiffin. Even a dumbass knows just give it to Henry"
"Pound the rock. How hard is it"
And on and on and on. It was incessant. An almost overwhelming drumbeat of criticism about an offense that was both scoring points and winning games.
Now we've arrived in November. The stretch run of the schedule when you've got to both win games and make a statement that you're among the elite and what's happening? Remember that known quantity? He's getting the rock. The offense is now going on 9+ minute drives to close out a top 5 opponent. They're landing body blow after body blow against good opponents with the running game. They're making their statement.
We've got tGOAT coach roaming the sidelines. That staff knows what they're doing. Those games in September and early October let Calvin Ridley come into his own. They let Jake Coker develop to the point he could lead a game winning drive against Tennessee. They finally taught Ardaruis Stewart that it is indeed legal to block downfield. Those pieces were built through the year and now it is go time you're seeing the result. They're using the best weapon because he's the best weapon but thanks to that early year work, he's not the only one.
You want to see a one trick pony? Take a look in Baton Rouge. When Bama was working out the kinks, they were feeding LF, talking Heisman, and laughing at that dumbass Saban for letting Kiffin ruin his offense. Now they're in November too, but unlike Bama they've got nowhere else to turn.
Alabama started the season replacing 8 or 9 (depending on how you look at OJ Howard) starters on offense. The SOLE known quantity was Henry. Everyone knew he was great.
In September & October, Bama was winning games - and usually by comfortable margins (Ole Miss game excepted) - but the fans were bitching about Kiffin throwing the ball all over the field.
"Fire Kiffin. Even a dumbass knows just give it to Henry"
"Pound the rock. How hard is it"
And on and on and on. It was incessant. An almost overwhelming drumbeat of criticism about an offense that was both scoring points and winning games.
Now we've arrived in November. The stretch run of the schedule when you've got to both win games and make a statement that you're among the elite and what's happening? Remember that known quantity? He's getting the rock. The offense is now going on 9+ minute drives to close out a top 5 opponent. They're landing body blow after body blow against good opponents with the running game. They're making their statement.
We've got tGOAT coach roaming the sidelines. That staff knows what they're doing. Those games in September and early October let Calvin Ridley come into his own. They let Jake Coker develop to the point he could lead a game winning drive against Tennessee. They finally taught Ardaruis Stewart that it is indeed legal to block downfield. Those pieces were built through the year and now it is go time you're seeing the result. They're using the best weapon because he's the best weapon but thanks to that early year work, he's not the only one.
You want to see a one trick pony? Take a look in Baton Rouge. When Bama was working out the kinks, they were feeding LF, talking Heisman, and laughing at that dumbass Saban for letting Kiffin ruin his offense. Now they're in November too, but unlike Bama they've got nowhere else to turn.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 1:21 pm to Funky Tide 8
I also am concerning that our passing attack will cost us a natty this year. The OL struggles in pass blocking, and Coker just struggles with throws beyond 5 yards. Half the problem is he doesn't see the open guy sometimes, like the one play where #13 was wide open over the middle against MSU and Coker threw it short and we had to punt. His accuracy is also a bit suspect many times. I like Coker's grit and maybe the pieces around him are good enough that we can win it all...but the truth is he just isn't a very good QB. Sort of a taller JP Wilson is what he reminds me of. I'm hoping he will just have a killer game out of nowhere when we need it most, sort of like AJ did in the 2011 natty game or Gmac did in the SECCG in 2009. I think we will need him to have a big game through the air at some point in the playoffs if we are going to win it all.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 1:48 pm to tider04
He throws the ball well enough, and he has proven to be clutch. He is apart of the winning formula for us. It's hard for anyone to throw with a whole d line in their face.
Only thing you can do at this point is to just ride the tiger.
Only thing you can do at this point is to just ride the tiger.
This post was edited on 11/17/15 at 1:51 pm
Latest Alabama News
Popular
Back to top
Follow SECRant for SEC Football News