re: A bait thread is coming soon to either the SECr or SECrb, ignore it

In a lot of domestic disputes, both parties are arrested.


I'm not saying that I think that Upshaw should have been kicked off or anything like that, but I would like to know much more about Taylor's incident before I draw a big conclusion.

This is the summary of what the police officer said about Upshaw:

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Arresting officer Rusty Romine said he spotted Upshaw following Gryzb in the parking lot. He said she appeared to be shouting at Upshaw after he caught up with her.

"At this time Upshaw grabbed Gryzb by the back of the neck and hair" and appeared to try to push her down, Romine wrote in a deposition and charge sheet.

He said she freed herself and attempted to hit Upshaw in the face but missed, then the player grabbed her forearm and pushed her away.

Romine said he separated the two. The officer said both indicated the altercation started after Grzyb saw Upshaw talking to another female. Grzyb said she slapped him and walked away, then Upshaw followed her, the report said

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The girl's father took his side as well.

Police determined that Taylor was the “primary aggressor” in a domestic violence incident at McWhorter Hall with his girlfriend, according to University of Georgia police chief Jimmy Williamson.

"The police report said the victim had “visible scratches and red marks to her neck and bruises on her arm and leg.” The reporting officer wrote he determined that Taylor “had offensively used his hands to choke her and had also struck her several times with a closed fist.”"

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Can't find the full police reports though.

Yeah CNS was laying cover for himself and the university. After how fired up he got in that rant, how anxious do you think any of those reporters will be to ask CNS a real pointed question about the decision to bring in Taylor?

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Excerpt of UA's statement on Jonathan Taylor: "Athletics is not involved in the admissions process." I've got some prime real estate for you

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He might be right, but unless you can find me a case where a regular student wasn't accepted because of a similar past, he really has no validity in saying that as it pertains to this case.

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C'mon man.......

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am I wrong?

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You really think this guy would get through the admissions process with his background if he wasn't a monster d-lineman who will play next year?

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I truly do not know the answer to this question.

I don't know the kid, none of us do. He obviously left enough of an impression on Saban to get the okay from him.

My whole point in all of this is that none of us really know that much about the situation.

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and it has the potential to be a trainwreck if Taylor assaults another girl or is even accused of same.

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If that happens then I will eat enough crow to feed a Chinese family.

A little bit of the beating we are taking in the media:

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Saban's willingness to give young men a chance to change their lives for the better, especially if they can help his football team, is commendable. It's also not uncommon among college football coaches.

But where do you draw the line? There are a lot of options between condemning a young man to a life sentence and offering him a scholarship to the most prominent college football program in the country.

Taylor wasn't accused of just making a mistake. A mistake is forgetting to pay a parking ticket. Choking and striking a woman with a closed fist is an act of violence, and violence against women would seem like a good place for SEC football programs to draw the line at offering extra chances.

Since Alabama is admitting Taylor to school, someone owes the school's female student population in particular a more detailed explanation beyond the official statement above. What exactly did Taylor do at Georgia? Why did he do it? Why does he deserve another chance at Alabama?

As he did with Pettway, if Saban accepts Taylor on the team as expected, the coach is staking his own reputation on the ability of a young man accused of a crime involving violence to stay on the straight and narrow.

Pettway appears to be a success story. That doesn't mean Taylor deserves the same opportunity.

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