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Is every coach in the West very good to elite?
Posted on 9/28/14 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 9/28/14 at 1:58 pm
I believe so. I think that someone will be fired eventually and be very successful at their next stop.
Saban
Sumlin
Miles
Merlin
Bert
Freeze
Malzahn
All great coaches.
Saban
Sumlin
Miles
Merlin
Bert
Freeze
Malzahn
All great coaches.
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Posted on 9/28/14 at 1:59 pm to SwaggerCopter
Sure
Posted on 9/28/14 at 1:59 pm to SwaggerCopter
Damn, never realized how good all of our coaches were 
Posted on 9/28/14 at 1:59 pm to SwaggerCopter
I think they all have now proven they can win big games.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 2:00 pm to SwaggerCopter
quote:
Saban
Sumlin
Miles
Merlin
Bert
Freeze
Malzahn
All great coaches.
I disagree.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 2:01 pm to SwaggerCopter
One of these is not like the others.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 2:01 pm to Rig
Sorry - I'm going to have to see Mullen win more than 1 game against a decent opponent.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 2:02 pm to SwaggerCopter
No
1. Win something
2. Win when your team is expected to win.
3. Win consistently.
1. Win something
2. Win when your team is expected to win.
3. Win consistently.
This post was edited on 9/28/14 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 9/28/14 at 2:02 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
I guess my reason for this thread is to say that if the 7 best coaches in college football were all in the West, teams would still lose games. I really believe that all of these guys are Top 20 coaches.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 2:04 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Mullen took a perennial 5-7 program and now averages 8 wins annually with this season having us ranked 12th in the nation. Mullen is a very good coach, not elite, but very good.
This post was edited on 9/28/14 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 9/28/14 at 2:06 pm to pivey14
quote:All of his wins come against shitty teams.
Mullen took a perennial 5-7 program and now averages 8 wins annually with this season having us ranked 12th in the nation. Mullen is a very good coach, not elite, but very good.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 2:06 pm to SwaggerCopter
quote:
Saban
Sumlin
Miles
Malzahn
All great coaches.
quote:
Merlin
Bert
Freeze
All decent coaches.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 2:15 pm to pivey14
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averages 8 wins annually with this season having us ranked 12th in the nation. Mullen is a very good coach, not elite, but very good.
Mullen beats 4 Conference USA - HBCU - Sun Belt teams, beats Kentucky and/or Vanderbilt, Arkansas (when they are terrible) or Ole Miss (when they are terrible) and loses to everyone else.
Now - if he gets over the hump this year then ok. LSU was a great start. But here are Mullen's wins :
2009
Jackson State (1AA)
VAnderbilt (2-10)
MTSU (10-3, SunBelt)
Kentucky (7-6)
Ole Miss (9-4)
2010
Memphis (1-11)
Georgia (6-7)
Alcorn State (1AA)
Houston (5-7)
Florida (8-5)
UAB (4-8)
Kentucky (6-7)
Ole Miss (4-8)
Michigan (7-6)
2011
Memphis (2-10)
La Tech (8-5)
UAB (3-9)
Kentucky (5-7)
UT Martin (1AA)
Ole Miss (2-10)
Wake Forest (6-7)
2012
Jackson State (1AA)
Auburn (3-9)
Troy (5-7)
South Alabama (2nd year of football)
Kentucky (2-10)
Tennessee (5-7)
MTSU (8-4)
Arkansas (4-8)
2013
Alcorn State (1AA)
Troy (6-6)
Bowling Green (10-4)
Kentucky (2-10)
Arkansas (3-9)
Ole Miss (8-5)
Rice (10-4)
Mullen has 3 wins over 10 win teams in entire tenure : MTSU (Sun Belt), Bowling Green (MAC), Rice (CUSA). He only had 9 wins in 5 years against teams with winning records coming into 2014.
Again - he's solid - but he has to win more than 1 game against a who knows how good they are LSU team before I anoint him "elite" or "very good".
This post was edited on 9/28/14 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 9/28/14 at 2:24 pm to SwaggerCopter
Elite Coaches:
Nick Sabam
Very Good coaches:
Malzahn
Miles
Sumlin
Good Coaches:
Freeze
Meh coaches:
Bert
Mullen
Nick Sabam
Very Good coaches:
Malzahn
Miles
Sumlin
Good Coaches:
Freeze
Meh coaches:
Bert
Mullen
Posted on 9/28/14 at 2:26 pm to SwaggerCopter
I don't think Mullen is a particularly good coach.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 2:28 pm to SwaggerCopter
Yep. The SEC gets all the talent, but also all the good coaches.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 2:31 pm to SwaggerCopter
Some of those are not like the others.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 2:34 pm to kywildcatfanone
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Some of those are not like the others.
But I think that anybody on that list would be excellent outside of the SEC West. Obviously, there is no way to prove that, but I just don't get the feeling that these guys don't know what they're doing.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 2:35 pm to SwaggerCopter
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But I think that anybody on that list would be excellent outside of the SEC West. Obviously, there is no way to prove that, but I just don't get the feeling that these guys don't know what they're doing.
Yea, I'm just not sold on Mullen as anything other than a solid 8-9 win coach even at a place like Florida or Texas or Alabama.
Freeze hasn't been around long enough for me to come to a conclusion yet.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 2:36 pm to SwaggerCopter
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But I think that anybody on that list would be excellent outside of the SEC West. Obviously, there is no way to prove that
Bielema has already been to three BCS bowls so your premise is correct on him. It just remains to be seen if he can win in the SEC.
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