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re: True, Mizzou would beat Ole Miss tomorrow. Also true, the Playoff Committee is a joke.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 8:19 am to Dorsal-Fin
Posted on 11/29/23 at 8:19 am to Dorsal-Fin
Not sure i understand why OM fans are going after mizzou. Does olemiss have a better resume than mizzou? Yes. Does it REALLY matter whether you play in the citrus or cotton bowl? No. It will next year when we go to 12 team format. Cheering for OM and mizzou to both get to 11.
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Posted on 11/29/23 at 8:39 am to Dorsal-Fin
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Mizzou would be a lock we were to play Saturday. They would be less of a lock if we played a month from now, but that’s besides the point.
The playoff committee has proven to base their rankings off of feelz. We all have feelz and my feelz tell me Mizzou is better.
But wouldn’t it be better if the committee based their rankings off of wins, losses, common opponents, and according to their rankings, strength of those wins and losses??
I don’t have a problem with Mizzou being ranked ahead of the Rebs, I have a problem with a system that is SO unclear and inconsistent. We deserve some sort of context for what is valued and what is not.
If we are going by the eye test, GREAT! Constantly moving the target to justify rankings is not the way.
/rant
What's the source of the committee's feelz about Penn State? Their only notable win happened way back in September over an Iowa team that scored 11 offensive touchdowns in 9 conference games. It's totally baffling to me.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 8:46 am to Dorsal-Fin
The BCS formula was a perfect as you could get with a whole bunch of teams playing on an uneven field. They should have kept the formula and just added 2 teams rather than scrapping the entire system for a committee.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 9:02 am to NaturalStateReb
Ole Miss fans keep talking about Mizzou. If they were seeding for a 12 team playoff, Mizzou is not the issue. PSU and the G5 auto qualifying is the issue. Ole Miss would be kept out, Tulane would be in despite a h2h Ole Miss victory. Also PSU in no way deserves that spot.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 9:37 am to surgicalvenom
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Ole Miss fans keep talking about Mizzou. If they were seeding for a 12 team playoff, Mizzou is not the issue. PSU and the G5 auto qualifying is the issue. Ole Miss would be kept out, Tulane would be in despite a h2h Ole Miss victory. Also PSU in no way deserves that spot.
True but it is much easier to compare teams with multiple common opponents and playing in the same conference.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 9:55 am to Jrv2damac
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This weird Mississippi/missouri feud is lame
The real fight is over which river is better
Posted on 11/29/23 at 10:00 am to Dorsal-Fin
Ole Miss fans just bury their head in the sand when anyone brings up margin of victory. Ole Miss didn't beat a single decent team decisively and got their doors blown off @UGA. Unless you end up winning your conference, a 35+ point regular season loss excludes you from being ranked in the top 10 of the CFP rankings. That has been the precedent set by the committee historically. There has only been 1 exception to that rule in the CFP era, and it was a blue blood - 2016 USC snuck in at #9 after a blowout loss week 1 to Bama - and they also had a 2 TD road win over a playoff team (Washington). Why do Ole Miss fans think they deserve to be the exception to this rule?
Posted on 11/29/23 at 10:50 am to deputyfife
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If a team won close or lost close, makes a difference.
Then why doesn't Mizzou's mere 4 point home win over Middle Tennessee State come into play?
Posted on 11/29/23 at 10:54 am to Krampus
quote:Okay, what rules? Does SOS matter? How is SOS determined? Margin of victory? Sounds like you're saying we put it in the hands of algorithms.
Set the rules. Set the path to a title. Let the teams fight for it. Period.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 10:55 am to Dorsal-Fin
It is stupid that they ever ditched the BCS formula. When the playoffs started, why didn’t they just have the top 4 from the BCS ranking?
As much as people bitched about the BCS, it never actually got the rankings wrong once the regular seasons were over. If anyone disagrees I’d love to hear why.
As much as people bitched about the BCS, it never actually got the rankings wrong once the regular seasons were over. If anyone disagrees I’d love to hear why.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 10:57 am to BearRebelShark
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Does olemiss have a better resume than mizzou? Yes.
52-17
Posted on 11/29/23 at 10:58 am to Dorsal-Fin
Opinions...everyone has one.
Just wait until next year when they pick the 12 teams and numerous teams that are 13 and below CRY/BITCH/MOAN.
Last out...just like the NCAA tourney.
Just wait until next year when they pick the 12 teams and numerous teams that are 13 and below CRY/BITCH/MOAN.
Last out...just like the NCAA tourney.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 10:59 am to RebelRye
Biggest difference is where our teams today? OM got throttled late in the season. At their peak. Frauds.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:01 am to mizslu314
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The real fight is over which river is better
Mississippi
Why is that even a debate
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:29 am to jamespatterson
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52-17
How did Ole Miss and Missouri each fare against LSU? I seem to remember one of them winning and one of them losing at home
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:36 am to Dorsal-Fin
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Mizzou would be a lock we were to play Saturday. They would be less of a lock if we played a month from now, but that’s besides the point.
The playoff committee has proven to base their rankings off of feelz. We all have feelz and my feelz tell me Mizzou is better.
But wouldn’t it be better if the committee based their rankings off of wins, losses, common opponents, and according to their rankings, strength of those wins and losses??
I don’t have a problem with Mizzou being ranked ahead of the Rebs, I have a problem with a system that is SO unclear and inconsistent. We deserve some sort of context for what is valued and what is not.
If we are going by the eye test, GREAT! Constantly moving the target to justify rankings is not the way.
/rant
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:39 am to Dorsal-Fin
Hey, they're college kids, anything can happen, and it's been a fun season for both teams.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 2:19 pm to Jrv2damac
You think this yet you keep reading. Says a lot about your life.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 2:27 pm to Dorsal-Fin
The problem is the CFP releases rankings. 6 bowl games top 12 teams.
Seems simple, right? But no. Sorry a G5 team has to be in even if they aren’t in the top 12. Sorry again, a non-top 12 team like Louisville can get in too because of bowl conference affiliations.
#12 is screwed because of the G5 rule. #11 is gonna get screwed because of conference affiliation. Louisville is in if they beat FSU because of conference affiliation. Louisville is in if FSU wins because FSU goes to playoff bowl and conference affiliation means it takes the next ACC team.. Louisville.
Seems simple, right? But no. Sorry a G5 team has to be in even if they aren’t in the top 12. Sorry again, a non-top 12 team like Louisville can get in too because of bowl conference affiliations.
#12 is screwed because of the G5 rule. #11 is gonna get screwed because of conference affiliation. Louisville is in if they beat FSU because of conference affiliation. Louisville is in if FSU wins because FSU goes to playoff bowl and conference affiliation means it takes the next ACC team.. Louisville.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 2:34 pm to Capn_Bevo
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Okay, what rules? Does SOS matter? How is SOS determined? Margin of victory? Sounds like you're saying we put it in the hands of algorithms.
That’s exactly what we should do. Literally any concrete rules would work. It could be a single metric, it could be a combination. The key is that is consistency and transparency.
There should not be a human element dictating these things in the middle of the season. Narratives, money, and bias affect human decision making.
Look at the conferences, look at the NFL, look at high school. The rules are set before the season and there is never any controversy.
Nobody has an issue with Iowa being in the Big 10 championship game because THEMS THE RULES
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