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Alabama loses its coach, then players leave
Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:50 pm
Their fans blame DeBoer
We lose coaches, then players leave, and our fans blame Pittman.
Our fans have company
We lose coaches, then players leave, and our fans blame Pittman.
Our fans have company
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Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:55 pm to hawgfaninc
He won't make it in Tuscaloosa. He should have stayed in Washington.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 5:11 pm to dchog
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He won't make it in Tuscaloosa. He should have stayed in Washington.
You don't want to be the coach that followed Saban. You wanna be the coach that followed the coach that followed Saban.
Hell, I think DeBoer is a good coach, but there's no way that Bama (regardless of who the coach is) will win at the same clip as tGOAT. Bama fans are ruthless and are so accustomed to an uber high level of success. DeBoer has no chance.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 6:51 pm to Arkapigdiesel
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Bama fans are ruthless and are so accustomed to an uber high level of success. DeBoer has no chance.
I live in the midst of Bama fans. From what I've heard, DeBoer has two years to win 10 games and get back to the playoffs.
They'll cut bait with quickness, money isn't an option.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 7:17 pm to ArHog
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They'll cut bait with quickness
Just in time for the Pittman experiment to run its course and we’ll happily take bama’s sloppy seconds
Posted on 1/17/24 at 7:22 pm to hawgfaninc
And we haven't landed a single one.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:09 pm to Arkapigdiesel
The game has changed and Saban left before he hit his decline. He used to dominate SEC games, winning 10 plus games by double digits for many years.
Enter NIL and the portal, programs have closed the gap with Bama. Saban and Bama no longer hold any advantages. Saban tried to fight these changes but lost.
He had his choices, watch his program decline or retire while still in very good shape. He chose retirement.
Alabama is full of Harvey Updyke fans. They are spoiled, rude and obnoxious.
Enter NIL and the portal, programs have closed the gap with Bama. Saban and Bama no longer hold any advantages. Saban tried to fight these changes but lost.
He had his choices, watch his program decline or retire while still in very good shape. He chose retirement.
Alabama is full of Harvey Updyke fans. They are spoiled, rude and obnoxious.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:11 pm to ArHog
They expect to win an SEC title each year. DeBoer is a good coach but once he has a 9-3 season, his seat will start getting warm.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 5:00 am to hawgfaninc
You need an NFL coach in the NIL environment. Why would you stay in college if you could go to the NFL?
Posted on 1/18/24 at 1:17 pm to Arkapigdiesel
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You don't want to be the coach that followed Saban.
Especially when you’re not from the region.
Following Saban is tough enough, but not being “one of us” is a huge hurdle to overcome. Just ask Miles at LSU.
DeBoer is a great coach but he’s never been anywhere near the American South and has lived and coached exclusively in areas like the PNW, South Dakota, Illinois, Michigan, save for a 2 year stint at Fresno.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 3:30 pm to Feral
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Especially when you’re not from the region.
Two things, in my humble opinion, killed Bert's tenure at Arkansas.
The big one, obviously, is that he became a slovenly drunk asking waitresses to give him rimjobs. Never really something you want from your head coach. Bear Bryant, legendary drunk, probably wasn't asking random waitresses to toss his salad.
The other one was, he wasn't from around here. Bert was a Midwest guy. He hired like a Midwest guy, coached like a Midwest guy, and recruited (when sober) like a Midwest guy. And you can win a lot of games doing that. In the Midwest.
Saban, as an example, started coaching in the Midwest, but he was from West Virginia. Southern AF. He understood the topography of coaching in the South better than he did the Midwest where, to be honest, he was fair at best.
There have been some really gifted coaches from the PNW who have come down to the South and shite the bed in amazing fashion. The culture doesn't translate very well.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 5:59 pm to Feral
I have uncles and a friend of the family who is a GM for a CFL team that is married to a former Alabama cheerleader.
If you think Harvey Updyke was bad, they tell me that they have plenty more of them in Alabama.
In Arkansas it is just a game but they treat football as a religion in Alabama. A family member killed another family member over a loss. One woman shot and killed another woman after telling her it isn't a big deal.
You got fans that wear elephant hats and run on a field, get tattoos of Bear Bryant and love to give you a history lesson on how great Alabama football history is.
If you think Harvey Updyke was bad, they tell me that they have plenty more of them in Alabama.
In Arkansas it is just a game but they treat football as a religion in Alabama. A family member killed another family member over a loss. One woman shot and killed another woman after telling her it isn't a big deal.
You got fans that wear elephant hats and run on a field, get tattoos of Bear Bryant and love to give you a history lesson on how great Alabama football history is.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 6:00 am to dchog
Urban meyer came from Utah and did just fine. Kelly seems to be working out, sark and kiffin aren’t southern boys but seem to be working out just fine and Saban wasn’t tGOAT because he came from coal country. He was tGOAT because he understood defense at a high level and program building, both of which he learned from bill B. If DeBoer fails it won’t be because he’s not from the south.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 6:36 am to dchog
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Enter NIL and the portal, programs have closed the gap with Bama. Saban and Bama no longer hold any advantages. Saban tried to fight these changes but lost.
It’s not just that teams are closing the gap, it’s that Bama can’t keep three top ten team’s worth of players on their roster anymore.
The two and three deep guys aren’t content to stick around for a few years before getting their real shot.
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