AubOrange

There's a lot about it in the bottom of this article: LINK

Looks to me like they cut the grass and tore down a shack in the back yard. Don't know how much money that would take, but doesn't sound like too too much.

And, as has been said, that was done to remove the building off the condemned list, but it is not even close to being brought up to code and they still have to meet elsewhere to this day.

Looks like the city requested what they estimated to be about $50,000 worth of repairs to bring it up to code, and that hasn't been achieved.

So, yeah, Cecil's church at some point raised some money, but it's significantly less that $50k, and it didn't happen at any really suspicious timing either.

I don't know how much a small church could scrape together over a couple years, but surely it's enough to cut the grass and tear down a shack, right?

quote:

---

Or he heard about Bond speaking with the FBI and said "oh shite". Hired himself a lawyer and came clean. He probably had every intention of protecting Cecil until the FBI got involved. He's more interested in saving his arse than the Newtons.

---

OR, much more likely: The guy that has a history of lying is lying, and the guy that doesn't isn't.

Why do you automatically assume that Rogers is the one that has come clean and that Cecil hasn't?

quote:

---

If Cecil's phone can be tied to Bill Bell's phone, Cecil has some major league explaining to do.

---

Correct. Like I said, I don't know if Bell is necessarily claiming yet that he did talk directly to Cecil, or that he is getting phone records to prove that.

If he did, it feels like the whens and the wheres and the specifics would have been in that ESPN.com article.

You have to admit, this was thrown in the middle of an existing article in a very "by-the-way" fashion by Forde. If there was a direct, strongly stated quote from Bell, or if Bell specified when and where, then that would have been included.

I'm not saying Bell and Bond are lying at all. I'm sure they're the most reputable of people, and they're absolutely doing the right thing, no matter what.

Rogers is the one that could be lying. To us and to Bell and Bond.

quote:

---

So why are John Bond and Bill Bell more or less in agreement with what Rogers has had to say? What's their incentive to get down in the dirt with such a dirty man?

---

See, I don't think they are.

Bond is going to the FBI with phone records to prove that he talked to Rogers. Rogers says he never talked to Bond.

Meanwhile, Bill Bell hasn't yet said whether or not he ever talked directly to Cecil.

It's also possible that Bond and Bell both believed Rogers when he said he was representing the Newtons, even though they may have never really talked to Cecil. (Why not? He's a former teammate. They don't know he's under NFL investigation, they haven't talked to him in 30 years.)

Seems to me like Rogers changed his story Thursday so that it would coincide with theirs. Explaining the message he left Bell at a Shell gas station, saying he was representing the Newtons. But he could have just been lying then and now.

quote:

---

Ummm... you realize that if Auburn in fact did this and the SEC refused to acknowledge it as a serious issue (which they most certainly did), then Auburn simply hasn't done shite to actually really investigate it. They also aren't going to openly claim they found anything.

---

Why do you assume that Auburn, the Newtons, the SEC office, and everyone in the situation is dirty, when it could just be that Kenny Rogers is dirty?

quote:

---

Sammy The Bull Gravano is a crook who took part in 19 murders.

But that didn't stop the FBI from using his testimony to help put away much of the Gambino crime family, including his boss John Gotti.

So yeah, Kenny Rogers is sleazy. Doesn't mean he's lying.

A jury believed Sammy the Bull, didn't they?

---

What I'm saying is, the second option could have easily taken place without anyone else being crooked.

And the simplest solution is usually the most likely.

Okay, so there's basically two things that could have gone on here:

A.) Auburn is corrupt and paid Cam Newton, Cecil Newton is corrupt and was soliciting money the whole time even though his kid was in his second chance in the SEC and not in any position to bargain, Mike Slive and Charles Bloom are corrupt and hate the NCAA and hate MSU because they went over the SEC's head in some petty kindergarten jealousy, Auburn's refusal to comment is completely different from MSU's refusal to comment, and EVERYONE IS GETTING THE DEATH PENALTY!!

Or

B.) Kenny Rogers is a crook.

Look, there's a reason these allegations haven't popped up at Auburn, Oklahoma, Tennessee, or Florida the first time. The only reason it's at MSU is because Rogers is an MSU alum. He used the fact that he knew Cecil and Cam a little (from when he called them when he heard he was transferring, because that's what his whack arse "business" does) to act like he was representing them and solicit money from the MSU boosters. He couldn't have done it at any other school, because he didn't have contacts at any other schools -- just his formers teammates at MSU. The FBI is involved because, as we all know, agent runners have been a huge problem in college football for years, and they're looking to crack down Rogers. That's why Bond says "this has nothing to do with Auburn", and why he has phone records to give the FBI to prove that he talked to Rogers. Neither Auburn nor Mississippi State did anything wrong.

I like to look through here and lurk a little from time to time to see some neutral perspectives. But damn ya'll, everyone quit jumping to conclusions.

No Auburn players. But oh well, it's cool because they make the perfect division rival for us Auburn/Raiders fans.

quote:

---

Holding out in the offseason is one thing, but these 2 Chargers players are being ridiculously selfish. When the season starts, it is time to play, raise or no raise. You have a contract, now go honor it.

---

Pro Tip: It's not a holdout when you're not under contract. He's not under contract.

He's sitting out the year so he can become an unrestricted free agent next year, and earn a fat contract under the new Collective Bargaining Agreement.