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Who doesn't want Richt fired

Posted on 10/11/15 at 11:02 pm
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42426 posts
Posted on 10/11/15 at 11:02 pm
We're making a competing thread to help settle this as well.

1. Dawgsontop34
2. Porter Osborne Jr.
3. Foomanchoo
4. K9
5. Sogafan
6. Dawgslife
7. Red&Black
8. Dudley Humptyfrats
9. Dawgnation4
10. Menlodawg
11. ATLdawg25
12. Prettyboy Floyd
This post was edited on 10/12/15 at 10:27 am
Posted by LewDawg
Member since May 2009
75242 posts
Posted on 10/11/15 at 11:04 pm to
frick I don't know
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39952 posts
Posted on 10/11/15 at 11:04 pm to
Keep him until the admin team decides they want championships too.
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
6990 posts
Posted on 10/11/15 at 11:09 pm to
I want Richt to grow a goatee, get a few tattoos and start dropping acid on Sundays instead of going to church.

When will the mouse become a man?
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41571 posts
Posted on 10/11/15 at 11:16 pm to
I think we are heading in the right direction as a program in spite of a couple of bad games. Not on board the fire train yet.
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
23953 posts
Posted on 10/11/15 at 11:16 pm to
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Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 10/11/15 at 11:28 pm to
quote:

I think we are heading in the right direction as a program in spite of a couple of bad games. Not on board the fire train yet.




I keep seeing this from all sorts of sources and everytime I want to believe it but then you take a look at recruiting and results on the field and the only direction we are heading in is the same one we have been heading in for 33 years and that is toward being less and less relevant with every Belk Bowl....

What evidence do we have that we are heading in the right direction? It sure as hell ain't coordinators because neither our defensive nor offensive coordinators are capable of coaching the talent they have. They may be fricking geniuses when they have the talent they want but they are lousy with getting production out of the talent they have.

And it ain't recruiting because we are still third or worse in the SEC...couple that with the inability to coach 'em up and we the direction we are heading is is the opposite of being relevant in the SEC East....

The only positive direction is we haven't had as many off field problems...but I doubt if that is a trend as much as it is an anamoly....would anyone be surprised if that didn't change this offseason?
Posted by SoGaFan
Member since Jan 2008
5956 posts
Posted on 10/11/15 at 11:36 pm to
I'm with Porter, I think this is the type of program UGA wants, so no point in blowing it up just for %^&% and giggles when the fan base who want to be Bama are just going to get just as mad with the next guy.
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 10/11/15 at 11:53 pm to
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I'm with Porter, I think this is the type of program UGA wants, so no point in blowing it up just for %^&% and giggles when the fan base who want to be Bama are just going to get just as mad with the next guy.





I agree and have for about 6 years. I would like to see us get rid of richt, either fire him or he leaves on his own. But it ain't up to me and no one is asking me and if they did they ain't going to upset the gravy train.

This is as good as it gets for UGA. We will be irrelevant in CFB about 75 years out of 80. It is what it is and the money ain't getting rid of Richt. If he starts losing regularly to Tech he is a gone pecan but no one who matters gives a shite if we lose to UF, UT, Auburn or anyone in the conference....as long as we win 70% of the time and beat Tech 90% of the time we are golden....


They have reason to take this stand, by the way....because the fanbase does not insist that they do anything differently....we still buy tickets, we go to Charlotte for shitty bowl games, we buy car flags and baby diapers with a G on them.....and that is all that matters....plenty of money coming in, nothing embarassing happening off the field that can't be handled by dismissing folks and beating the shite out of Georgia Tech more times than not...actually about 8.5 out of 10 years or so....these are our only goals as a program, anything else is a lie....
Posted by E.Hubble
Athens
Member since Jul 2013
1720 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 1:08 am to
Richt is just the surface. UGA needs more than a new coach. Until Georgia starts doing what the actual elite teams are doing, fans can forget the cfp. They have to do anything and everything necessary to consistently get the top recruits at every position. If that involves getting rid of Richt, changing the drug policy, and lining the pockets of everyone from the players to the police, then do it.

Or hope for a fluke season like auburn 2010...which even Gene Chiz couldn't screw up so why fire Richt?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58901 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 5:23 am to
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you take a look at recruiting and results on the field and the only direction we are heading in is the same one we have been heading in for 33 years and that is toward being less and less relevant with every Belk Bowl....


1. No. Our recruiting is much better. We used to barely crack the top 10. We are now on target for a top 5 finish, so we are doing better.

2. We are hiring competent assistant coaches. Pruitt for one....and I think Schottenheimer will prove to be good, although, I don't know if he will be better than Bobo.

I was in the Netherlands when we lost to Alabama, but peeked in on the board, out of curiosity. Melting hard as always. People saying we had an equal or better team than Alabama and should have won. But, Alabama has had the #1 recruiting class for the last 5 years in a row. NOBODY has better talent.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58901 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 5:29 am to
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Keep him until the admin team decides they want championships too.


I actually think thye have shown signs of wanting to win. IPF, Pruitt hire, and Schottenhemer hire. Whether you like what Schottenheimer is doing is immaterial. They could have hired an unprven inexperienced OC, but they went with a former NFL guy. They are beginning to spend the money and build the facilities. The investment in the program is happening.
Posted by Red&Black
Athens, GA
Member since Jul 2013
1912 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 6:41 am to
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Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 7:08 am to
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1. No. Our recruiting is much better. We used to barely crack the top 10. We are now on target for a top 5 finish, so we are doing better.



This is just wrong. You can't be blamed for buying it though because we all want to believe but our recruiting is consistent.

2006 we were ranked #4 (Florida's class was ranked higher)

2007 13th behind LSU, Auburn, USC, UT and UF (by the way Bama was 17th this year)

2008 5th behind Bama and UF

2009 6th behind LSU, Bama and Florida

2010 12th behind Fl, Bama, Auburn, LSU and UT

2011 6th behind Bama and Auburn

2012 5th behind Bama and UF

2013 10th behind Bama, UF, Ole Miss, LSU and Texas AM

2014 9th behind Bama, AM, UF and Auburn

2015 8th behind Bama, UT and Auburn

2016 projected at #8 behind Bama, LSU and Ole Miss.

Prior to 2012 we were ranked , on average, about 7th in the nation each year while after 2012 we have slipped to about 8.5. Over this period altogether we have averaged about the #8 class in the country...exactly what we are projected to do next year and what we did last year (according to ESPN). Recruiting is not ticking up, it is level or headed the other way.

And the huge problem here is that while we may have the #5 class every once in a while there is 2 teams from our conference higher than we are....so while we may be recruiting savants in the ACC we are about 3rd or lower in the SEC every single year....which explains why we are are usually the third or worse team in the conference, every year. WHen you couple this with poor coaching and gameday management that third spot slips to 5th or worse....
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 7:19 am to
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2. We are hiring competent assistant coaches. Pruitt for one....and I think Schottenheimer will prove to be good, although, I don't know if he will be better than Bobo.




Pruitt is not a competent coach and Schotty will prove the same....and here is why. Neither are able to coach the talent they have...they need to have the talent that will flourish in their system. That works great in elite programs where you can recruit who ever you choose and even better in the NFL where you can hire whoever you want. A collge coach has to be a recruiter AND has to be able to coach up kids who weren't exactly who they wanted at a position but who was willing to matriculate at the university in question. We need coordinators who can adjust to the talent they have every year instead of trying to adjust the talent to the system.

For example Schotty knows we don't have a QB but we have some pretty decent tight ends....we use them what, a couple of times a game? Michel is amazing in space but when have we ever ran him in a reverse or some sort of misdirection stuff? What happened to our screen plays?

No, we haven't upgraded our coordinators...and in fact we wouldn't have new ones today if the others hadn't left....that is not something the program did it was something that was done to the program. If Louisville hadn't lost their mother fricking mind and hired Grantham that fat frick would still be walking the sideline tween the hedges and Mike Bobo is a much better coordinator at UGA (he may suck as a head coach at CSU but he had UGA dialed in) that Schotty who is going back to the NFL in 2 years....there aint a college in the land who would hire him after his 3 seasons at UGA prove him incapable of judging talent and recruiting it and coaching it up.....


We aren't improving as aprogram...but we aren't regressing and we beat Tech most of the time and that is all that matters to the powers that be....and who can blame them? WHo wants to be responsible for a UT type swoon?
Posted by Sandwich
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
5548 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 7:29 am to
I have to admit, I'm not overly impressed with Pruitt. I came into this season knowing that we would probably have to lean on our defense to help us win games. Yesterday was one such occasion and they failed. There is no excuse for UGA letting Dobbs set career records against us...not in a million years...not even starting ALL true freshman.

The young excuse holds no water imo...its a cop out...its time to face the facts..either we just don't have any talent..or Pruitt just isnt that good of a coach.

Honestly...I think its both.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58901 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 7:38 am to
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This is just wrong.


quote:

after 2012 we have slipped to about 8.5.


I actually meant this year. Pruitt and Schottenheimer have now been here long enough to start making a difference. And, while we are cxurrently on pace to finish 8th this year, we lead for some VERY highly rated recruits that could easily move us into the top 5. (Hardman, Brown etc.) So, yes, I DO think the recruiting is showing signs of picking up.
Posted by Dudley Humptyfrats
'Murica
Member since Oct 2010
2133 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 7:39 am to
I don't want him fired
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58901 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 7:42 am to
quote:

Pruitt is not a competent coach and Schotty will prove the same....and here is why. Neither are able to coach the talent they have...they need to have the talent that will flourish in their system.


Do you not see where Pruitt is doing just that? Particularly in the secondary? We have improved greatly on defense the last two years. (We still have a ways to go, but improvement is easy to see)

Schott? Only time will tell, but we are keeping the #1 or #2 QB in the nation because of him, have a commitment from Hockman, and are in the running for Kyle Davis at WR. Add to that we have some pretty good looking kids committing on the OL.

But only time will tell. But to say they are not competent? That's just wrong.
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 7:44 am to
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The young excuse holds no water imo...its a cop out...its time to face the facts..either we just don't have any talent..or Pruitt just isnt that good of a coach.

Honestly...I think its both.


I think we have some talent and it is young and Pruitt would be a great coordinator if he had his pick of players...the problem is that he isn't going to have his pick of players at UGA because we will always be the 3rd or worse team in recruiting in the conference...so the players he needs will always be in Tuscaloosa or Baton Rouge or anywhere but Athens....and he is not able to fit the system to the player. Grantham was the exact same way. SChotty will prove to be also....
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